The Mark of Athena (The Heroes of Olympus, #3) The Mark of Athena discussion


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Does Any one get annoyed by way Piper thinks about Percy and whines a lot in her mind

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message 101: by [deleted user] (new)

Hell ya i hate piper, shes so annoying.


message 102: by Rachel (last edited Dec 24, 2012 09:58PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Jackson Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "I saw this on Tumblr once.

Annabeth: (breathes)
Fandom: omg you're so cute
Piper: (breathes)
Fandom: CAN YOU NOT..."



Fine. You have your opinion I have mine. But the thing is I respect your opinion but you don't do the same.
I like piper but I don't like certain aspects of her personality. I found her pov the most boring in MoA.
You like piper and find nothing wrong with her.
Lets just leave it at that.
As we can see there is no changing each of opinions.


Kendraseth Everyone to their own. Right?


message 104: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Jackson Exactly :)


message 105: by Cara (new) - rated it 5 stars

Cara I agree...wow, that was an intense debate. I have to say, though, I hate Piper in Mark of Athena, even though I liked her in Lost Hero.


message 106: by Mo (new) - rated it 5 stars

Mo Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "Rachel wrote: "Leah wrote: "I saw this on Tumblr once.

Annabeth: (breathes)
Fandom: omg you're so cute
Piper: (breathes)
Fandom..."


I was like reading the comment you were replying to, and it was like "Rachel wrote, Leah wrote, Rachel wrote, Leah wrote..."
Lolz, I got confused.


message 107: by ranya (new) - rated it 5 stars

ranya I know! Me too! Lol :)


message 108: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Ranya wrote: "I know! Me too! Lol :)"

Sorry. I'm extremely argumentative and stubborn. Not a good combination.


notyourfriend u can say that again...


message 110: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Paigetwo wrote: "u can say that again..."

Sorry. I'm extremely argumentative and stubborn. Not a good combination.


notyourfriend ;) lol


Josiane Claremont Piper has never been my favorite character. Of all the books that I have EVER read, this book may have just ANNOYED me the MOST!!

I love how Annabeth is so much more awesome in this book, but I think that Riordan may have downplayed Percy's awesomeness WAY too much...like how Percy was like "...but they didn't want to meet me?..." and all that, and how he felt awful cuz Jason got to meet Hercules and the undersea centaurs, and they didn't want to meet him and stuff...

Piper's passages just plain ANNOYED me! I LOVE Percy Jackson (and Annabeth of course! Epic-est couple EVAH!), and Piper was just basically ignoring them and criticizing them (like after the night on the pegasus stable), and she was almost just basically thinking about herself.
And the only times she wasn't thinking about herself, she was just thinking about how she wished she and Jason were closer, or how much more awesome Jason was compared to Percy and stuff...
Annoyed the HECK out of me.

I understand why, though...she IS a daughter of Aphrodite, goddess of love, known to be self-indulgent and shallow...
Somehow, I got the vibe that she was 10 times MORE self-centered in this book than in TLH.

Annabeth, if you ever get in a fight with Piper, KICK HER BUTT.


notyourfriend Josiane wrote: "Piper has never been my favorite character. Of all the books that I have EVER read, this book may have just ANNOYED me the MOST!!

I love how Annabeth is so much more awesome in this book, but I t..."


yea and she would!


message 114: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Jackson Leah wrote: "Ranya wrote: "I know! Me too! Lol :)"

Sorry. I'm extremely argumentative and stubborn. Not a good combination."


Me too! I never know when to let go.


message 115: by Melissa (last edited Dec 28, 2012 01:29AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Melissa I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I thought it was a bit shallow of her and that she should be thinking about the quest. But soon afterwards, I realised I was just being biased, because I (like most in the fandom) like Percy more than Jason. As soon as a came to terms with the fact that Piper SHOULD be thinking those things, because Jason is her boyfriend (seriously, how weird would it be if she's in love with Jason but says Percy's hotter...) I liked reading Pipers POV a lot more.

I admit, at times, reading from Pipers POV can get a bit boring and anticlimactic, but that is absolutely NO reason to hate and despise her. Honestly, I've heard people saying they wished she died, and I know she's a fictional character and everything, so it doesnt matter as much as if it were a real person, but still, thats going a bit far for me.

Here is a list of the demigods from the prophecy that I like:

1. Percy (Duh)
2. Annabeth (another duh)
3. Leo (do I have to say it again? Duh)
4. Hazel
5. Piper
6/7 Jason and Frank (I couldnt decide who I liked better)


Kendraseth Thanks for your voice of reason!


Josiane Claremont Melissa wrote: "I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I thought it was a bit shallow of her an..."

Frank is better than Jason. Frank's demigod powers are WAY more awesome than Jason! ^.^


message 118: by Anika (new) - rated it 5 stars

Anika I liked piper in TLH, but I HATED her in this book. She is so annoying, she tries not to act like she is Aphrodite, but it just seems to make her act more like that!!!!!


Evelyn Melissa wrote: "I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I thought it was a bit shallow of her an..."

before i say anything why is frank last or second last
because i just don't understand that at all


message 120: by Leah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Leah Evelyn wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I thought it was a bit s..."

I'll admit, Frank isn't at the top of my list either. I like him, he's just not my favorite.


Melissa Frank being last doesnt mean I dont like him, its just that I like the other characters more than him.


notyourfriend Melissa wrote: "Frank being last doesnt mean I dont like him, its just that I like the other characters more than him."

well said...


Melissa Josiane wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I thought it was a bit s..."

Well okay, his powers are better than Jasons, but that comes with the risk of being SCARED FOR YOUR LIFE EVERYDAY THAT A LITTLE PIECE OF WOOD IS GOING TO BURN UP! So I like Frank, he's adoreable and everything, but to me, he still ranks equal with Jason.


notyourfriend Melissa wrote: "Josiane wrote: "Melissa wrote: "I'm kinda on the fence about this topic. I admit, when Piper was comparing Percy and Jason in the 'hotness' department I got a bit annoyed at first, because I though..."

u should go on the new disscusion "who would win in a fight" and challenge them...


Kendraseth Frank, Jason, and Percy are nothing compared to Leo! Leo rocks and everyone else wants to be like him. I'd take Leo over any of the characters in The Mark of Athena.


message 126: by Rachel (new) - rated it 5 stars

Rachel Jackson Go Leo !!!!!


Isabel Kendraseth wrote: "Frank, Jason, and Percy are nothing compared to Leo! Leo rocks and everyone else wants to be like him. I'd take Leo over any of the characters in The Mark of Athena."

My best friend would agree. but i'm definitly a Precy fan. Maybe because i can relat to him. seeing that i to am dyslexc. In my mine leo and piper are too childish. they dont have experiance in this world unlike Jason Percy and Annabeth, so they just seem to be out of place.


message 128: by C.R. (new) - rated it 5 stars

C.R. I'm sorry but Piper kinda gets on my nerves, at first I really liked her in the Lost Hero but then she started ratting on Percy and I was like Shut up Piper, we know you're jealous that Annabeth's got Percy and you got stuck with Jason... okay not really but I like Percy a lot more than Jason. And plus when you look at the pictures Percy's a lot hotter than Jason. I kinda wish Piper would shut up a bit. But then again all the new characters annoy me...okay just Leo, Piper, and Jason maybe it's cuz we didn't have Percy or Annabeth much in the Lost Hero... I don't know.


Caraline Ria wrote: "Amelia wrote: "I'm sorry but Piper kinda gets on my nerves, at first I really liked her in the Lost Hero but then she started ratting on Percy and I was like Shut up Piper, we know you're jealous t..."

I like the HOO books but PJ way better


message 130: by Carly (new) - rated it 5 stars

Carly I actually don't mind it too much. Yeah, I'd choose Percy over Jason but that's me. Not everyone is attracted to the same person. We all find someone else attracted that others don't.

And you got to remember that Piper is a daughter of Aphrodite. Caring about ones appearance is part of their DNA.

And even though Piper can be annoying (always worry about her boyfriend and not to focusing on the quest) don't you think that's like a lot of girls? Or even guys? So, yeah, I don't mind it too much. Even if her chapters are the more boring ones.


message 131: by Sophia (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sophia This might be a bit off-note but I think Piper is a bit selfish when it comes to her relationship between her and Jaeson. If she were to save Percy or Jaeson, her 1st choice would definitely be Jaeson. She is not as loyal as Percy towards her friends.


ϟEvelynϟ She does whine a lot but come on...she's a daughter of Aphrodite. Plus, I don't judge her for thinking of Percy as lesser than Jason. of course she's gonna think her boyfriend is better than him. Same with Annabeth. But yeah, Piper can be annoying and whiny. Same with Annabeth. I love Hazel! She's my favorite female of the seven.


message 133: by [deleted user] (new)

Leah wrote: "exactly. I have my opinion. You have your incorrect one"
so true,, i agree with u


message 134: by [deleted user] (new)

Piper, well she was just being biased. And honestly, I don't know if I should be annoyed that she was being shallow or relieved that there's at least one character who didn't find Jackson impressive.

I don't like Jason that much but Nico calling Percy the "strongest demigod" was just bias on RR's part.


message 135: by Blogger (new)

Blogger Girl EVERYONE SHOULD JUST LIKE CALM DOWN AND SHUT THE F**K UP BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL AS EQUALLY ANNOYING AS PIPER( EVEN THOUGH SHE WASN"T THAT ANNOYING IN THE FIRST PLACE)


message 136: by Sheila (last edited Jan 29, 2013 06:42PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Sheila woah, calm down Piper (aka Blogger)


Caraline Sheila wrote: "woah, calm down Piper (aka Blogger)"

right on Sheila.

Blogger, whoever you are, you are acting more like Piper than any of us. Relax- this is for fun. And there are kids on here so I'd appreciate it if you didn't use certain words that no matter what * you put, everybody knows what it is. thanks


Caraline (Lady) Sage wrote: "I think that Piper cares about her appearance anyway, only in reverse. she wants to look bad all the time so it doesn't look like she cares about her appearance. But she does.
and yes, i think she ..."



good point!!!!


ϟEvelynϟ Hahahahhaahahahhahahahahaha a


ϟEvelynϟ Sheila wrote: "woah, calm down Piper (aka Blogger)"

muahahahahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhaaaaaaaaaaaaaa


message 141: by Blogger (last edited Jan 30, 2013 03:55PM) (new)

Blogger Girl Caraline wrote: "Sheila wrote: "woah, calm down Piper (aka Blogger)"

right on Sheila.

Blogger, whoever you are, you are acting more like Piper than any of us. Relax- this is for fun. And there are kids on here so..."


SORRY for my use of language. hope u guys all forgive:D


Caraline Blogger wrote: "Caraline wrote: "Sheila wrote: "woah, calm down Piper (aka Blogger)"

right on Sheila.

Blogger, whoever you are, you are acting more like Piper than any of us. Relax- this is for fun. And there ar..."


thank you!!!!


Jasmine Cobb Piper is pretty typical, but not everyone in Rick's books can be just extraordinarily awesome. Piper acts like a whiny, indecisive teenage girl. Annabeth and Hazel don't because they're a bit more mature, and experienced with saving the world and such. So don't go too hard on Piper. She's actually trying to be good, but doesn't have tons of experience with quests OR guys. She need a better sense of humor, in my strong opinion. I would like her better if she laughed more.


message 144: by Blogger (new)

Blogger Girl Piper isn't that bad. I think she just worries about Jason a lot because jason is perfect( in her mind) and she thinks she isn't as good as him. and she also hates it when he's always acting distant so that might be why she constantly thinks about him.


ϟEvelynϟ Jasmine wrote: "Piper is pretty typical, but not everyone in Rick's books can be just extraordinarily awesome. Piper acts like a whiny, indecisive teenage girl. Annabeth and Hazel don't because they're a bit more ..."

I agree with you completely. Especially on the laughing part. ha


Kathryn Piper never came off to me as a strong character like Annabeth or Percy or even Leo. However I always liked how she wasn't the typical Aphrodite girl and she basically destroyed a god with a CORNUCOPIA which I thought was pretty impressive. That comment about Percy being unimpressive did bother me because I have the biggest fangirl crush on him (but really who doesn't?) however Jason is her boyfriend and anyone compared to him should seem unimpressive (even if it is Percy).


message 147: by Caraline (last edited Feb 01, 2013 08:03PM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Caraline Jasmine wrote: "Piper is pretty typical, but not everyone in Rick's books can be just extraordinarily awesome. Piper acts like a whiny, indecisive teenage girl. Annabeth and Hazel don't because they're a bit more ..."

yeah I definitely know what you mean. Piper is still really "new" if that makes sense. She's trying to find her path- maybe she could do it in a slightly less annoying way, but whatever. hopefully RR will develop her character a little more so we have more to like about her :)


Jasmine Cobb Agreed. I also think a part of it is that...well, she's just not Annabeth. We're so used to a strong, tough female character. So reading about Piper, who is totally different, is kind of a shock. At least Rick doesn't repeat the same characters in different forms.


message 149: by Aliyah (new) - rated it 5 stars

Aliyah I don't really NOT like Piper, but I don't get how anyone could like Jason better than Percy. I mean, maybe it's because I was so attached to the Percy Jackson & The Olympians series, but really.

I mean sure, Jason's cute and strong and powerful and loyal and blah blah blah, but to me, he doesn't really have a ... personality. Like with Percy you can predict some of his moves and reactions because the character just has so much PERSONALITY. Jason's just boring in comparison.


message 150: by Emma (last edited Feb 03, 2013 07:43AM) (new) - rated it 5 stars

Emma I think Kelly said it best on her Tumblr, The Sibylline Books:
Piper

Well, this has been a subject of contest lately even though the post that sparked it was from almost a month ago.

I don’t love Piper.

Yes, she acts like a normal teenage girl, and so is arguably the most relatable character of the newbies. She goes through heartbreak when her boyfriend of a few weeks wakes up one day and doesn’t remember her and then it turns out everything is just a dream. That must be horrible. Yes, her father doesn’t pay her as much attention as he should.

But my main issue with is that she’s rarely grateful for the things she has.

She has a father who’s alive. She has friends, even if it turns out one of them wasn’t actually present for the last three months of their friendship. She’s still got Leo. She has a new family. She has millions of dollars at her disposal (and yes, I know that money doesn’t buy happiness). She’s not dumb.

She’s gorgeous — and complains about it. It’s not that she’s been told she’s pretty her whole life but has self-image issues. A goddess makes her drop-dead beautiful and all she wants to do is get rid of her “curse”. While she doesn’t like the attention, she could at least send up a “thanks, mom” or something. It’s not every day a goddess turns you into someone whose looks would make a model cry.

What bothers most people (or at least, most teenage girls) about Piper, though, is that she is a normal hormonal teenager.

Like us.

We complain. We cry when we’re frustrated or sad or scared. We wouldn’t know how to wield a knife properly without at least a few days of training. We are emotional. We don’t see ourselves for how we really are. We obsess over our crushes (real-life or fictional). We’re whiny and bratty and take things for granted.

We want someone to look up to, not a mirror to look into.

Piper is our mirror. And that’s one of the reasons we despise her.

Thank You Kelly!!!



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