The Mark of Athena
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who of the 7 is the strongest?
I'll argue that Annabeth is below Percy, possibly even Jason, she just doesn't have the raw power they do.
Victoria wrote: 'THEY' as in Rick Riordan. That's still part of ..."No, actually sweetheart, it's not bad writing to want to have a fully developed character, it's just hard to do that without a very long time span. Piper was a rushed character, as well as Jason. The editors and Rick wanted to make them as fully developed as Percy and Annabeth, so they did something that would seem entirely reasonable in theory, but didn't work so well on paper, by rushing their characters just slightly. It's a mark of good ideas, he just didn't have a long enough time span to make it work. And Piper isn't necessarily a very appealing character, or a role model. I mean, she complains about not being taken seriously except for her beauty, but doesn't do anything about it. If we are trying to send the right message to girls about female characters, that didn't work. But at the same time, that's also not bad writing and actually was a good strategy. There needed to be a parallel between all of the girls. They couldn't all be super tough heroines, and Piper provided that contrast for the strong, almost gung-ho female characters like Annabeth, Hazel, Thalia and Reyna.
So no, it's not bad writing. It's just almost a reverse strategy, that I think brought out the fierceness in the other girl characters.
Thalia is really kick butt...
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I cannot rate them by strength, its to hard! So here is my list of them based on there powers and/or personality and experience:1. Annabeth Chase
2. Piper McLean
3. Leo Valdez
4. Frank Zhang
5. Hazel Levesque
6. Jason Grace
7. Percy Jackson
That is just out of the 7. If I had to choose out of ALL of them, Reyna would be 2, and Percy wouldn't even make the list.
....Percy wouldn't WHAT!?!?!?!?!!?!?!?!
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Woah woah woah, @SistaPip....I'm going to need an explanation honey, because that is going to need some serious FACTS to back that ridiculous comment about Percy not making the list.
THANK YOU. ME AND YOU ARE INSTANTLY BUDDIES. I MEAN LIKE WHAT THE HECK.
Emma wrote: "1. Percy2. Jason
3. Frank*
4. Leo
5. Annabeth
6. Hazel
7. Piper*
*Powers are unreliable, or they are emotionally unstable"
I kinda agree, but I think Frank and Annabeth should be switched
i mean...Frank cannot turn into anything, it takes him too much willpower
I think that Leo should take third... but that makes sense
Yeah. In an all out battle, Leo wouldn't stand a chance against someone who can really fight, but he's able to think on the spot, and create crazy things. Definitely not as high as Percy or Annabeth, but almost certainly more powerful than Frank and Piper, and Hazel probably too.
just to clarifySPOILER ALERT
Frank is way more powerful in the next book when he alone fights off an army of monsters
...not much of a spoiler. But okie :>
Ive already read it... but he didnt do it alone.
Yeah. And with Frank, his powers are way too subjected to his emotions.
Wait! I feel like percy is son of Neptune and poseidon since he controls clean water and the sea! Before you say he need water around him he does! There is water in the air making it his domain also! So Percy would beat jason and overall the strongest! He was even offered to be a full god for gods sake!
Why all the exclamation points though?? XD
Good point but why did you say "I feel like percy is son on Neptune and poseidon"..........we know he is.....
I think Percy should be second and Jason be first because Jason has been taught with the romans,more war type.Percy has been taught with the greeks,more camp fire song type.
GravityFalls wrote: "I think Percy should be second and Jason be first because Jason has been taught with the romans,more war type.Percy has been taught with the greeks,more camp fire song type."lol
GravityFalls wrote: "I think Percy should be second and Jason be first because Jason has been taught with the romans,more war type.Percy has been taught with the greeks,more camp fire song type."One big thing against this is the type of training, Romans were mostly concerned about group training, formations and such, vs the Greeks who were all trained as more individuals. This means that in groups Romans were far better, but alone Greeks tend to edge out. Or at least that's always been my interpretation.
Jocelyn wrote: "Keep in mind that the demigods have different levels of experience, which could factor into their power, as well as their arsenal of weapons. (Percy mentions that over the years, it's easier for hi..."You guys think Percy can't strategize,re-read the last olympian. He came up with the whole defense for Manhattan along with coordinating cabin abilities to where they needed it most.
It's Percy. I known they try to make it seem like the seven are equal but there is a reason a whole series is called Percy Jackson and the Olympians. Plus he fought Kronos and a bunch of other titans. He was offered immortallity. And survived Tarturus. And Percy and Annabeth together they are pratically unstoppable. And Percy's the greatest swords man for the past 300 years. And he has awesome powers.
1. Percy: my all time favorite2. Jason: i dont like him but he is strong
3. Annabeth: she is really smart and good a fighting
4. Frank: shape shifter and good at archery
5. Leo: build stuff
6. Hazel: cool horse and magic
7. Piper: charm speak aand a knife that she cant even fight with
(I disagree with the last list. Leo should be higher with the wits, especially with his tools and inventing and how he killed Ma Gasket in Lost Hero
(I disagree with the last list. Leo should be higher with the wits, especially with his tools and inventing and how he killed Ma Gasket in Lost Hero
Personally, even though he's not part of the prophecy, I believe that Nico is the strongest because he can freaking raise the dead! He can communicate with the dead as well and that is just a freaking awesome power! But, the strongest of the seven would have to be either Frank or Piper. Frank can turn into animals and that's just so awesome and plus without his powers he is very strong. Piper is also powerful because she can basically tell anyone what to do and they have to do it. She can even talk to machines! Sometimes though, if she's against a very powerful being, it wouldn't work. The reason I didn't pick Percy would have to be that his powers sometimes only work near water. Say if he's in a battle and there's no water around. he has fighting skills but without water he isn't that powerful.
I don't understand why this is a difficult question. Does no-one remember when Percy (in the battle of the labyrinth) vaporised the telkhines at the bottom of a hot volcanoe? He literally (excuse my poor choice of words) exploded the place! There were news reports and shit saying it was a NATURAL DISASTER! Percy has disaster report level power. I refuse to believe he can't vaporise all of the other 6 and hell even an entire army if he went all-out and this was back when he was a few years younger and his abilities have since improved. Although he might be exhausted after exerting that much power he would still be ALIVE and that's all that matters.
it goes 1.percy
2.jason
3.hazle
4.leo
5.annabeth
6.frank
7.piper
there all very close with power
6.
PercyJason
Leo
Annabeth
Frank
Hazel
Piper
I personally think that Annabeth is the strongest. Especially with the clarification that you're talking about in terms of flaws. Annabeth obviously has flaws, but I think they're less of a problem then everybody else's. She is able to stay levelheaded which makes it easier for her to use her powers to their full extent when she needs to. She also appreciates and even relies on the powers of the others which is one major flaw of both Jason and Percy. This becomes a strength because then she is utilizing all of her resources.
Caitlyn; genius baby cactus veggie musumic person wrote: "PERCY! THE END!"Agreed
They are all really strong, I honestly don,t think I could choose. I do however admire Annabeth because she does not really have any special powers but she still is just as powerful. Because the rest of the seven have also had to use their brains to get out of tough situations and are really smart I don,t really consider it a special power.
They are all equally powerful in their own ways, but the top 3 are obvious.1. Percy
2. Jason
3. Nico
Kayla wrote: "I think Percy is the strongest as far as power goes. Not that Jason isn't powerful, it's just I think Percy does better under pressured situations but Jason is usually getting his ass saved by some..."Bullshit. Jason was only saved once after getting cheapshotted. percy, on the other hand had to get saved multiple times, including when jason saved him while they were underwater.
Jocelyn wrote: "Keep in mind that the demigods have different levels of experience, which could factor into their power, as well as their arsenal of weapons. (Percy mentions that over the years, it's easier for hi..."This is the classic point of view from someone who hates the newer characters because they are better than the originals. Here are my thoughts:
Raw power:
1. Percy
2. Jason
T-3. Leo/Frank
5. Hazel
6. Piper
7. Annabeth
Tactical ability:
T-1st Annabeth/Jason/Frank
4th: Percy
5th: Hazel
T-6th: Leo/Piper
Fighting:
T-1: Jason/Percy
T-3: Annabeth/Frank
5th: Hazel
6th: Piper
7th: Leo
Leadership:
1: Jason
2: Percy
3: Frank
4: Annabeth
5:Hazel
T-6th: Piper/Leo
Experience:
1. Jason 13+ years
2. Annabeth 5+ years
3. percy 4+ years
4. Hazel 2+ years
T-5th: Frank/Leo/Piper(Remember that Lost hero happened around the same time frank got to camp Jupiter
Overall( Who I would take in any kind of fight
1. Jason because he has the most experience, the most training, best leadership, and while he has a tiny bit less power than Percy, lightning beats water, fact of science. And if you say Percy could control his blood, Jason could cause percy's lungs to explode, or, because blood cells carry air, Jason could control percys blood. People don't like how he is perfect and that he stole the spotlight from Percy but they just have to deal with it. Plus, everything that Jason is counters Percy. The big one being Roman and greek, and Roman beats Greek.
2. Percy(no explanation necessary)
3. Frank because he has the Mars fighting ability plus shapeshifting plus roman training, which is superior to greek in every way
4. Piper, charmspeak, plus at the end she is way good with a sword
5. Hazel Her roman training plus Pluto powers are pretty good plus the mist and she is pretty formidable
6. Leo, while he is the worst at fighting, he uses fire and is pretty smart
7. Annabeth, she is the worst because the only way she beats any of the others is if she has a partner with powers. She is the weakest of the seven and she doesnt trust half of the others so she is hard to like.
PERCY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Cody wrote: "Jocelyn wrote: "Keep in mind that the demigods have different levels of experience, which could factor into their power, as well as their arsenal of weapons. (Percy mentions that over the years, it..."Annabeth has more than 5 years experience. By the end of the Heroes of Olympus series, she is 17, and I believe she was 7 when she ran away from home, arriving at the camp at age 7 or 8. While she does lack raw power, there has been multiple times where they would not have won a fight without Annabeths strategies. Pure strength is not always the best choice. They definitely all have strengths as well as weaknesses, so I guess it truely depends on the situation. I personally think Nico is at least as strong as Percy and Jason, especially considering he is Soo much younger than them, and faced Tarturus alone, but unfortunately he technically is not one of the seven. But it really depends on whether you are wanting raw power, experience, combat skills, mental capability, etc.
Depends what you mean my powerful. But, for battle strength, I would say1 Jason and Percy (they truly are evenly matched)
2 Annabeth
3 Leo
4 Frank
5 Hazel
6 Piper
Obviously, Percy seems to be strongest here. He has power, he is mentally and physically strong, praised by Deadalus for his swordsmanship. But let's look at LEO now. He has fire powers. He can make war machines. He survived the explosion. He is literally the first demigod to be able to find Calypso again. He's funny. I think he comes pretty close to first.
I think that Percy is the strongest power-wise, Jason comes in second (still power-wise).But to be honest, I think Annabeth is the strongest in general, because of her wit, and of course the fact that everybody does everything she says, because she's so stinking scary. Piper may be able to do the same thing, but Annabeth is simply better than her when it comes down to fighting, strategy, and brains.
In conclusion, though Annabeth may be the most powerful, Percy is the strongest, but only because of his powers. If everyone had the same powers, however, Annabeth would certainly win in a fight, as she has the most years of experience. (Well, Percabeth might tie, but that's because they're PERCABETH.)
List from strongest to least strongest: (by ships)
1. Percabeth
2. Frazel
3. Leo ('cause Calypso ain't part of the Seven)
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And so on...
5,000,000,000,000,000. Perachel (not that Rachel is part of the Seven, I just had to put this in here...)
Cody wrote: "Jocelyn wrote: "Keep in mind that the demigods have different levels of experience, which could factor into their power, as well as their arsenal of weapons. (Percy mentions that over the years, it..."i actually do agree with your assessment well argued and you did state evidence.
Percy is the strongest for the win
I think Its Annabeth, because in the series at one point or another their powers have failed them except for Annabeth cause she doesn't have a power other than her wits . yet she always wins.So I vote for her
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