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Feb 26, 2009 06:43PM

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Ted, I'm not sure if that was a typo or a deliberate pun, but whichever it was it was both LOL funny and superbly appropriate. Ah, Paris Hilton, the opiate of the masses.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_of...
Wow, I get my godless philosophers mixed up. Actually, the quote came from the Marquis de Sade.
Yet another godless philosopher. LOL
Wow, I get my godless philosophers mixed up. Actually, the quote came from the Marquis de Sade.
Yet another godless philosopher. LOL
I wasn't sure that anyone would be astute to notice my little typo. I am at least greatified that people actually read my stuff.
you should become a detective or social worker! :)

And eat ice cream with a glass of ice water. It's yummy.
Damn, Nancy, that sounds like a delicious day! (You'll have to make ne a Green Iguana .. sounds yummy.)
Troy wrote: "When it's cold, you should definitely drink something equally as cold. Slurpees from 7-11 or Strawberry Daiquiris...and you don't even need the alcohol in it!
And eat ice cream with a glass of ic..."
You're right, Troy .. and I drink tons of ice water all day long.
And eat ice cream with a glass of ic..."
You're right, Troy .. and I drink tons of ice water all day long.
wow an adventrous bunch! i had a chicken parmesan sandwich today.
OK, so who's gonna go out on a limb and propose this week's question? I've been hanging here long enuf, dammit! LOL
Or I could jusr delete this mess and we could start over again. Any volunteers for Question Master?

Collin wrote: "I have a question for everyone: Would you consider reading the prologue and the first chapter of my novel, "Conquering Venus", which is coming out later this year. I have it in PDF format and would..."
Colin, I'm reluctant to let authors go hog wild with the publicity stuff, but you sound like a nice man. Sure. You need an email?
Colin, I'm reluctant to let authors go hog wild with the publicity stuff, but you sound like a nice man. Sure. You need an email?

Question for this week and next.
"To what extent does literary pornography enhance one's life?" Give examples, pro and con.
"To what extent does literary pornography enhance one's life?" Give examples, pro and con.

Sometimes it puts me in the "Mood", other times I Learn new experiences.
Edna Little Fish wrote: "Well, I really don't want to read Gay Men or Straight Porn, as it wouldn't do anything for me, however Lesbian Porn does occasionally.
Sometimes it puts me in the "Mood", other times I Learn new e..."
Any recommendations, Edna?
Sometimes it puts me in the "Mood", other times I Learn new e..."
Any recommendations, Edna?

Of course, it is a little HARDER given my AGE! LOL! 70! But not quite dead! LOL!
Any ideas for me???
Edna Little Fish wrote: "I haven't read any lately.
Of course, it is a little HARDER given my AGE! LOL! 70! But not quite dead! LOL!
Any ideas for me???"
70? You're still a youngster. How about the very well-received novel Rubyfruit Jungle by Rita Mae Brown? More literary than pornographic, but definitely graphic.
Of course, it is a little HARDER given my AGE! LOL! 70! But not quite dead! LOL!
Any ideas for me???"
70? You're still a youngster. How about the very well-received novel Rubyfruit Jungle by Rita Mae Brown? More literary than pornographic, but definitely graphic.

Thank YOU!
I read some by Katherine Forrest (?) and they were very GOOD (LOL!) a long time ago, too. Haven't seen any around, lately though.
Edna Little Fish wrote: "I read it a LONG LONG time ago, I guess I will have to RE-READ it!
Thank YOU!
I read some by Katherine Forrest (?) and they were very GOOD (LOL!) a long time ago, too. Haven't seen any around, la..."
How about The Erotic Naiad: Love Stories by Naiad Press Authors a collection of lesbian short stories? I think Katherin Forrest is in there.
Thank YOU!
I read some by Katherine Forrest (?) and they were very GOOD (LOL!) a long time ago, too. Haven't seen any around, la..."
How about The Erotic Naiad: Love Stories by Naiad Press Authors a collection of lesbian short stories? I think Katherin Forrest is in there.

Never seen the UK version. I have to admit, I thought "The L Word" was miles better than QAF.
Collin wrote: "Ted, I'm with on the UK version of Queer as Folk. It towers over the horrible US version. The Brits always do it better. ;-)"
Well, the Brits do it better especially when they've created it to begin with!
Well, the Brits do it better especially when they've created it to begin with!
So, I propose revisiting the topic "Why are people afraid of perceived femininity in men?"
It'd be interesting to see what people think, for I'm not really sure.
It'd be interesting to see what people think, for I'm not really sure.
On Feb, 25, I posted here what I thought was a fun little send-up of the Frost poem “Stopping By Woods On a Snowy Evening.” Apparently some of you didn’t think it was so amusing. I was simply trying to inject a little levity into a thread about broccoli rabe, Brunswick stew, and spotted dick. My inspiration actually came from Rambling Reader’s first post in the topic: “What is the perfect dinner for a snowy evening?” So, if you thought I was being disparaging of the repartee, I wasn’t. Just chalk it up to my (warped?) sense of humor. My apologies to all.
Ted
Ted

people are afraid of whatever they don't understand, whatever society has not deemed as "the norm". Femininity is "supposed" to be something that is inherent in the female, though there are many different ideas about exactly what this quality is or if it even exists. I'm currently reading The Second Sex, which is an exploration of what it means to be female and whether or not the "feminine" actually exists.. but this is beside the point.
The main reason is that society has stated that men are supposed to be innately "masculine" and women, "feminine". A feminine male or a masculine woman challenges these ideas and therefore makes certain people feel uncomfortable. I'm not one for labels at all and I find that socials norms make everything worse, but for me there is also a difference between sex and gender. The qualities of masculine and feminine can be found naturally amongst all peoples and I don't think that there should be a perceived limit to who should or should not be feminine/masculine/ etc.
Unfortunately, not everyone in the world is as comfortable with these ideas as I am. People still adhere to the belief that men should be masculine and should like only women... it scares them because they don't share these qualities and they are afraid of being forced into a situation where they would have to.
Sharon wrote: "An answer to your question -
people are afraid of whatever they don't understand, whatever society has not deemed as "the norm". Femininity is "supposed" to be something that is inherent in the fe..."
Yes, thanks, Sharon. Any other takes before I put in a word?
people are afraid of whatever they don't understand, whatever society has not deemed as "the norm". Femininity is "supposed" to be something that is inherent in the fe..."
Yes, thanks, Sharon. Any other takes before I put in a word?

And yes, Sharon's right -- some people are just afraid of what's not "normal". That's lame, in both senses of the word.
Jeremy wrote: "People's lives are still lead, to some degree, by gender roles. Our culture has made women submissive to men (it's steadily gotten better). I think that any fear of feminine men stems from an insec..."
Jeremy, I think your point about insecurity hits the nail on the head. "Masculine" men may feel threatened by more effeminate men because they fear what may seceretly lurk within themselves. Women, on the other hand, might be put off by effeminate men, but I think they tend to be less threatened.
There seems to be no question that gender roles, perceived sexuality, and social tolerance of differences are more openly discussed today, but I wonder whether anything's really changed from say a century ago?
Jeremy, I think your point about insecurity hits the nail on the head. "Masculine" men may feel threatened by more effeminate men because they fear what may seceretly lurk within themselves. Women, on the other hand, might be put off by effeminate men, but I think they tend to be less threatened.
There seems to be no question that gender roles, perceived sexuality, and social tolerance of differences are more openly discussed today, but I wonder whether anything's really changed from say a century ago?

And If I got bored of that I might eat pizza.

H, you are a free spirit (a free agent?) A Snowmaiden eating pizza while dreamily descending. Welcome to our fetid fen!
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