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If a vampire doesn't use his penis for a century, will it fall off?
Well I think Edward probably used it, you know...alone. But honestly I did always kind of wonder about the whole vamp bodily functions thing. LMAO thanks for posting.
Nope. Blood doesn't circulate through his arm either, but that's still there.
Umm... I'm not completely sure. The vampires don't have blood circulating anywhere in their body, not just their private area, so that obviously has nothing to do with body parts falling off.They need blood to survive, but the blood doesn't need to circulate through their bodies to survive because their bodies no longer need nutrients to be delivered to different parts of the body.
Because blood is only a matrix, it's not necessary if you don't need nutrients or oxygen delivered to your body parts.
I don't know anything about The Vampire Diaries anatomy, though. It could be the same, it could be different.
But either way, if a penis did manage to fall off, for one reason or another, they could just put it back on like they would an arm or a leg. Their venom is an adhesive.
He drinks blood. It has to go somewhere right? I read a series where the vamps couldnt get hard ons till they drank. vamps shouldnt be able to get a hard on till blood is in their system.Steph. myers vamps are weird though in a sense that they are described more like statues.
Exactly!dude the makeup was is so bad.
Why would they even need erections? I think there's no sense in that. People speak as if erections are required to reproduce.
OMG I laughed my butt off when I read this. too funny. My comment though...if the blood does not circulate to the penis how does he get an erection at all? Isn't that how the anatomy works?
Cynthia wrote: "OMG I laughed my butt off when I read this. too funny. My comment though...if the blood does not circulate to the penis how does he get an erection at all? Isn't that how the anatomy works?"Again, why would they even need erections? Erections aren't required to have sex. Not even for humans.
Cassie wrote: "Again, why would they even need erections? Erections aren't required to have sex. Not even for humans. "It is implied that they had penetrative sex. He didn't ejaculate and then stuff it inside Bella. That is a ridiculous notion. He has no way to get an erection and venom doesn't hold DNA, no matter what Meyer's fail!science says. venom is poisonous and if it was ejaculated into Bella's body then it should've turned her, not impregnate her.
Of the million of things that are completly impossible about the concept of a vampire, you people chose to focus on this?I think Freud would have to say a word or two about that. :D
Actually:
I think that, according to Louise J. Kaplan, he did say a word of two about that.
Jesse wrote: "It is implied that they had penetrative sex. He didn't ejaculate and then stuff it inside Bella. That is a ridiculous notion. He has no way to get an erection and venom doesn't hold DNA, no matter what Meyer's fail!science says. venom is poisonous and if it was ejaculated into Bella's body then it should've turned her, not impregnate her."Yet AGAIN, WHY would Edward need an erection to have sex?
You guys don't seem to know the purpose of an erection. The only purpose is to make sex easier. to protect the nerves from pain caused by pressure. Since Edward is already hard all over, he does not NEED protection from Bella's pressure.
Men (real men in the human world that actually exist) don't even NEED erections to have sex. Real life men who suffer erectile dysfunction have been doing it for years. It's just not as enjoyable because there is some pain associated.
Also, take into consideration that's it's okay for folklore to change from story to story. That's why it's folklore, not folkfact. If you read Stephenie's website, ten you'd know why not all venom is poisonous.
Cassie wrote: "Yet AGAIN, WHY would Edward need an erection to have sex?You guys don't seem to know the purpose of an erection. The only purpose is to make sex easier. to protect the nerves from pain caused by pressure. Since Edward is already hard all over, he does not NEED protection from Bella's pressure.
Men (real men in the human world that actually exist) don't even NEED erections to have sex. Real life men who suffer erectile dysfunction have been doing it for years. It's just not as enjoyable because there is some pain associated.
Also, take into consideration that's it's okay for folklore to change from story to story. That's why it's folklore, not folkfact. If you read Stephenie's website, ten you'd know why not all venom is poisonous. "
Maybe its because of how I understand it, maybe it's because I just lack information. If so, explain it to me. If they have penetrative sex, how does he not need an erection to have sex with her? If you say that he doesn't need one, then that implies to me that you believe that he can't have an erection or just doesn't need one, making it seem like he has erectile dysfunction. Explain to me, I'm all ears; how can he have penetrative sex with her if he has no erection?
Also, I'm well aware what her site says, what it doesn't say is how it's possible for venom to carry DNA when it doesn't. They are 100% venom when it comes to liquid, their venom turns people, not impregnate them.
Also, I want to make it apparent that I'm saying penetrative sex, not just sex period. I know that to have sex you don't NEED an erection as their are many ways to have sex, but he penetrated Bella and impregnated her. If you have an explanation then explain it to me. How is it probable for him to penetrate her when he has no way to get an erection?
Because he just doesn't need one. I mean, why would he?I already know that he can't attain erections. I never said, or implied, that he could.
I'm not saying Edward has ED, I'm saying that he doesn't need one, the same way a guy with ED doesn't really need one for any purpose besides protection from pain.
Edward can have penetrative sex without an erection by inserting his penis into her vagina, then moving it in and out. The same way basic sex works.
If you want a well thought out explanation on the topic, try this.
http://loveandhealth.ifriends.net/Art...
Cassie wrote: "Because he just doesn't need one. I mean, why would he?I already know that he can't attain erections. I never said, or implied, that he could.
I'm not saying Edward has ED, I'm saying that he do..."
I just want to point out that this 'busts the myth' that an erection isn't needed to orgasm, which I acknowledged. This article explains very thoroughly that you can still have fun even if you don't have an erection. This article doesn't explain how its possible to have penetrative sex when the man doesn't have an erection which is what I wanted you to explain since it seems that you believe that this is something that a person can't argue about since an erection isn't needed.
Sure, he can just put it in and move, but if he's not erect then it'll fall out constantly and that would be awkward. Awkward sex may seem like a kink to some people, but awkward sex isn't fun to have, especially if it's someone's first time. What I'm saying is that he needs one to have penetrative sex with her, and I don't see how he could have that type of sex with her if he isn't erect.
Also, I think the title of this thread is funny. 'Will it fall off?' Lol. That's like saying it would fall off if they masturbated or that they would grow hair on their palms.
Since they're like statues, it's like this; their penises will stay on, unless you hit them hard enough. Same thing with their noses, and their limbs and stuff. A lot of statues are missing limbs and things like that.
Jesse wrote: "Cassie wrote: "Because he just doesn't need one. I mean, why would he?I already know that he can't attain erections. I never said, or implied, that he could.
I'm not saying Edward has ED, I'm sa..."
It's simple, if he doesn't pull out too far, it won't fall out.
Even erect ones will fall out if you move too far away, correct?
Cassie wrote: "It's simple, if he doesn't pull out too far, it won't fall out. Even erect ones will fall out if you move too far away, correct? "It's their firmness, for a lack of better word- that keeps it inside their partner. Flabby flesh that isn't hard wouldn't stay in. It would just slip out on its own when he tries to thrust. And that's awkward.
The Twilight vampires aren't exactly flabby anywhere. But maybe the epithelium causes their bodies to act as if they were flabby.I think the "flabbiness" would make it complicated for two vampires, but since Bella is several times more "flabby" than Edward, in comparison he's rather solid, and it would work itself out.
I'm not completely sure.
Cassie wrote: "The Twilight vampires aren't exactly flabby anywhere. But maybe the epithelium causes their bodies to act as if they were flabby.I think the "flabbiness" would make it complicated for two vampire..."
Are you trying to say that because he's as hard as a statue that that covers for him? Honestly, I have no clue what you're trying to convey.
but he drank animal blood so the would be some blood crculation and he drank human blood for while.
Vampires from VD can pass off as a normal human as long as they have blood, at least the tv version. Their hearts still beats even when mummified but it hurts like hell if it's pumping nothing, blood still flows, they can bleed , body functions naturally, e.g they still can eat and process normal food, get drunk on alcohol, and pee if they're healthy and full of blood, as long as they have blood they will seem human. It's what I don't get about vampires from twilight, why do they need blood if their body has pretty much turn to stone.
Simone wrote: "but he drank animal blood so the would be some blood crculation and he drank human blood for while."But it went into his stomach, how would it circulate from his stomach? How would it circulate period if he has no heart to do the circulating?
Maybe it's just...always erect.
Maybe Edward's (or any male vamps) penis froze erect when his body turned into stone and he just strapped it to his stomach so no one notices?
Nuran wrote: "Maybe Edward's (or any male vamps) penis froze erect when his body turned into stone and he just strapped it to his stomach so no one notices?"Lol, that's a funny image!
Nuran wrote: "Maybe Edward's (or any male vamps) penis froze erect when his body turned into stone and he just strapped it to his stomach so no one notices?"Maybe it's just really, really, really small so no one notices?
Zoran wrote: "Nuran wrote: "Maybe Edward's (or any male vamps) penis froze erect when his body turned into stone and he just strapped it to his stomach so no one notices?"Maybe it's just really, really, really..."
Could be. Nice thick jeans, and no one will notice a tiny lump!!!
Maybe he just...ties it to a stick or something. Like a splint.
1st lmfao! The title for this topic is super funny. smh. But I think that he .... maybe.... used it .... alone..... or with another vamp... but isn't he like a statue so he has a permanent hard-on? lol...
Zoran wrote: "Nuran wrote: "Maybe Edward's (or any male vamps) penis froze erect when his body turned into stone and he just strapped it to his stomach so no one notices?"Maybe it's just really, really, really..."
Lmfao!!! it probably is.
Jesse wrote: "Cassie wrote: "Yet AGAIN, WHY would Edward need an erection to have sex?You guys don't seem to know the purpose of an erection. The only purpose is to make sex easier. to protect the nerves from p..."
I sort of thought that vampires having sex with humans has happened in other books besides Meyers. The Sookie Stackhouse series for one. The House of Night for another. Why isn't anyone bashing those series for "doing the impossible"?
Amy wrote: "I sort of thought that vampires having sex with humans has happened in other books besides Meyers. The Sookie Stackhouse series for one. The House of Night for another. Why isn't anyone bashing those series for "doing the impossible"? "Well, I can't vouch for any other vampire novel where vampires have sex because I haven't read any, sadly. The problem with this series is that Meyer tried to explain too much with science that she didn't understand when she should have left it as is.
Jesse wrote: "Amy wrote: "I sort of thought that vampires having sex with humans has happened in other books besides Meyers. The Sookie Stackhouse series for one. The House of Night for another. Why isn't anyone..."I agree. Though I did appreciated the effort of trying to come up with fake-science that supported why her vampires were so, it would've been better (I think) if she didn't.
And the goodreads' coolest convo continues.
I agree too, the characterization of Twilight vamps is just not exciting!
I agree too, the characterization of Twilight vamps is just not exciting!
Jesse wrote: Are you trying to say that because he's as hard as a statue that that covers for him? Honestly, I have no clue what you're trying to convey. "Well, you nailed it, so it can't be too confusing.
Jesse wrote: "Cassie wrote: "The Twilight vampires aren't exactly flabby anywhere. But maybe the epithelium causes their bodies to act as if they were flabby.
I think the "flabbiness" would make it complicated ..."
EPIC APPLUASE
I think the "flabbiness" would make it complicated ..."
EPIC APPLUASE
Cassie wrote: "Jesse wrote: Are you trying to say that because he's as hard as a statue that that covers for him? Honestly, I have no clue what you're trying to convey. "Well, you nailed it, so it can't be too ..."
But that would mean that he's hard all the time.
Jesse wrote: "But that would mean that he's hard all the time. "Indeed it does.
Tenma wrote: "Maybe he just...ties it to a stick or something. Like a splint."I almost needed to change my pants after reading that I laughed so hard!!! Seriously. I peed a little.
This is a topic in almost every vampire book I've ever read that needs explaining. If an author's version of a vampire doesn't have a heart beat, how in the heck do they get an erection? In the VD books, the male vampires can't have sex. Their version of sex is taking blood. In Anne Rice's vampire series, they also can't get erect so they resort to other forms of sex besides penetration. Stephanie Meyers is the only author I know of that hasn't explained in the book how it's possible. There are a lot of other vampire series where the vamps have a heartbeat and erections aren't an issue. My favorite series like that is Laurell K. Hamilton's Anita Blake series. She explains the mechanics of it in detail. The vamps have a heartbeat when they want one or after they feed. They can't get erect unless they feed and have sufficient blood pressure to necessitate a heartbeat.
Anyway.. it's just easier for vamps to have a heartbeat if an author is going to make their characters have sex.
The more I read, the more confused and curious I get. This is just way too funny!
Cassie wrote: "Jesse wrote: "But that would mean that he's hard all the time. "Indeed it does."
Hah, I can now imagine if Edward's penis froze while it wasn't erect, it'd just be like having sex with a walnut. Shrivelled but hard.
Jesse wrote: "But that would mean that he's hard all the time."That would explain the pained expression on his face for four movies.
This is one hell of a hilarious topic!I have no idea whatsoever, but like the way people are actually arguing in this debate.
On similar lines i have always wondered that what would happen 'If a vampire bit a Zombie'? Anyone? :)
I don't think zombies have blood? they are dead too are they not? So why bite them at all? Although a vampire zombie could be quite the creature...lol
Jeni wrote: "Jesse wrote: "But that would mean that he's hard all the time."That would explain the pained expression on his face for four movies."
Ha! Indeed it would! That's a good way of thinking about it.
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So, if a vampire doesn't use his penis for a long time, like a century or so, there is no blood circulation there. If there is no blood circulation, will necrosis kick in? You know, will it shrivel and fall off?