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message 51: by Aloha (last edited Oct 29, 2013 10:56AM) (new)

Aloha | 44 comments I am so mad at myself I can have Armin Meiwes eat me alive! My friend Mark emailed me with the news that Vollmann gave a presentation on October 24 in Brooklyn. Here's the article on that: http://www.eyeshot.net

My Rising Up and Rising Down: Some Thoughts on Violence, Freedom and Urgent Means review is at 3,438 words and I'm barely covering the second half. I'm in perfect misery.


message 52: by Nathan "N.R." (last edited Oct 30, 2013 07:30AM) (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments So as that Geoff Aloha might have something for the work=day ::

FIVE BookWorms with Vollmann :: F&C, The Royal Family, RURD, The Ice-Shirt, Riding Toward Everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/results?search...


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Geoff | 158 comments Nathan, though this is EXTREMELY and RADICALLY and (vociferously) appreciated, I have already listened to all of them! [not that I can't revisit them, we don't listen to beautiful songs only once, do we? not if we can help it] see, I'm a good little Vollmanniac!


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Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Geoff wrote: "already listened to all of them!"

Check. I've corrected for that.


message 55: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 44 comments Nathan "No Reviews" wrote: "So as that Geoff Aloha might have something for the work=day ::

FIVE BookWorms with Vollmann :: F&C, The Royal Family, RURD, The Ice-Shirt, Riding Toward Everywhere.

http://www.youtube.com/resu..."


Ha! Thanks, Nathan! I just listened to the 2004 one on RURD. I wished I did it before my review. Great for when you're waiting for all these computer updates to be done. Great, anyway.


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A while ago, when I had the living situation blues real bad, I had to stay at my girlfriend's apartment for a week. I remember waking up and getting ready for work every day to Vollmann on BookWorm - I listened to them chronologically while making breakfast/showering, so sucked up into Vollmannspeak that I was cured of those blues. Fondest of Vollmann memories.

I'm doing a presentation next week on Vollmann's craft (almost done with Rainbow Stories; making headway into Expelled and Rifles). I've explored/bookmarked most links from this group, but are there any last-minute suggestions that ya'll think illuminate, in particular, Vollmann's process on the page?


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Aloha | 44 comments Josh, have you seen this article in The Paris Review? Vollmann discussed the history of his working method. Great article.

http://www.theparisreview.org/intervi...


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Aloha | 44 comments For those into the Dream series here is the link to all 73 volumes of The Jesuit Relations and Allied Documents 1610 to 1791 that Vollmann used in his research.

http://puffin.creighton.edu/jesuit/re...


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Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Bill gets a Newsweek treatment ::

"The Lush Life of William T. Vollmann" by Alexander Nazaryan, November 06 2013
http://www.newsweek.com/lush-life-wil...

"If William T. Vollmann ever wins the Nobel Prize in Literature - as many speculate he will - he knows exactly what he will do with the $1.1 million pot the Swedes attach to the award. "It will be fun to give some to prostitutes," he says, sitting on his futon, chuckling, a half-empty bottle of pretty good bourbon between us."

thnks to biblioklept for the tip.


message 60: by Hadrian (last edited Nov 07, 2013 09:17AM) (new)

Hadrian (hadrian_gr) Good literary journalism? In Newsweek?? About Bill‽‽‽ Color me impressed.

Edit: Add me to Team Bill for the Nobel any day. I will wave pennants and shout hooligans' slogans for him.


message 61: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments Definitely deserves the Nobel more than Munro (or P. Roth), and this from a canadian.


message 62: by Luke (last edited Nov 07, 2013 09:24AM) (new)

Luke (korrick) Yes yes yes yes yes. Yes. Did I mention yes? Because yes.

2014 is WTV Nobel year for sure. I must spread the word through as much reading as possible.


message 63: by Geoff (new)

Geoff | 158 comments Yeah wow oh yes this is wonderful.


message 64: by Geoff (new)

Geoff | 158 comments That article was just so kind and nice!


message 65: by Richard (new)

Richard | 13 comments Loved the Newsweek article - thanks for posting! It never even occurred to me that he could win a Nobel - it seemed so far beyond the realm of possibility. The Nobel seems not so shiny to me these days, but if it leads more people to consider WTV's thoughtful, rigorous, and beautifully written work, hey, I'm all for it.


message 66: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 44 comments Thanks for the article, Nathan. In the land of Power Points and Texting, longer prose is a relief.


message 67: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments I may be off base (it wouldn't be anywhere near the first time), but having read all of "The Lush Life of William T. Vollmann," the references to drinking (eight, by my count) seem numerous. Mostly they have to do with Vollmann drinking. Is there a subtext here, and behind the title?


message 68: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 44 comments Nope, you were right on, Jeff. That's my take, too. Vollmann is a man who likes what he likes and doesn't apologize for it. He likes women, too. A lot. :o)


message 69: by Luke (new)

Luke (korrick) So long as he keeps up the levelheaded respect for that which he likes, he has nothing to apologize for.


message 70: by Aloha (new)

Aloha | 44 comments We'll see how that goes with the booze. :o)


message 71: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments Aloha wrote: "Nope, you were right on, Jeff. That's my take, too. Vollmann is a man who likes what he likes and doesn't apologize for it. He likes women, too. A lot. :o)"

Not that I thought he needed to apologize, I just wondered if it was a special comment by the author of the piece.


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Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments Aloha wrote: "We'll see how that goes with the booze. :o)"

Funny.


message 73: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Jeff wrote: "I may be off base (it wouldn't be anywhere near the first time), but having read all of "The Lush Life of William T. Vollmann," the references to drinking (eight, by my count) seem numerous. Mostl..."

Only so much one can expect from Newsweek which writes for folks mostly who read only newspeak. For the title, yes, there may be a little resentment regarding the fact that Vollmann has supported himself with his writing/art/journalism -- without needing to teach or win jackpot-sized awards -- and still no one reads him. Or else it was a teenage crack at irony.

The booze, well, eight mentions is overdoing it. Sure, he likes his bourbon. I like my scotch. But is it necessary to work so hard to put Vollmann in that Poe-through-Barthelme tradition? But at least there weren't eight mentions of prostitutes. Or were there?

Or, for the less suspicious, Bill's just kicking back on a little publicity tour, maybe not working quite so much for a week or two. Here's my Bill tracker -- book release in NYC ; talk given at UCSB ; now the Newsweek thing.


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Tom Willard | 3 comments I can add one interesting anecdote about William. I was speaking to him about writing historical fiction and asking him for tips. He shared his technique with me, which is to procure photographs of the era or event and stare at them for about half an hour; try to spatially understand it and put yourself in that photo so you can attemtpt to experientially understand it. I never tried it it though, losing my appetite for history and drifting back toward metafictional postmodernism.


message 75: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Tom wrote: "to procure photographs of the era or event and stare at them for about half an hour;"

There are a couple of fantastic examples of him doing this in RURD. Usually, photos in books get a mere quick glance from me. But reading his writing about what I was looking at caused me to see a hell of a lot more in those photos.


message 76: by Geoff (new)

Geoff | 158 comments Tom wrote: "to procure photographs of the era or event and stare at them for about half an hour"

There are so many instances of this in Imperial, which of course is not historical fiction, but it is full of lovely long drawn out descriptions of photographs.


message 77: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments A 'Vollmann' search @ 3quarksdaily turns up a number of new-to-me items. If you find something--review, whatever--please highlight in its relevant thread ; items of a general nature you can highlight in this thread. I'll link an item or two in the near future.

http://www.3quarksdaily.com/3quarksda... [I can't link to the search results, so you'll have to type in "Vollmann into the search box yourself (!)]


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Jonathan (nathandjoe) | 50 comments Lovely long interview from Dec 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihP5...


message 79: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Jonathan wrote: "Lovely long interview from Dec 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihP5..."


Sweet!


message 80: by Geoff (last edited Mar 08, 2014 07:29AM) (new)

Geoff | 158 comments Jonathan wrote: "Lovely long interview from Dec 2013
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FihP5..."


Yeah, this made my morning a bit sunshinier! Thanks!


message 81: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments A short interview ::

"The Renegade : William T. Vollmann on love, violence and why the FBI thought he might be the Unabomber" by E.J. Iannelli
http://www.inlander.com/spokane/the-r...

Bill will be in Spokane WA Friday April 11 ::
In Conversation with Anthony Doerr and William T. Vollmann • Fri, April 11, 7 pm • $15, students free with ID • Bing Crosby Theater • 901 W. Sprague Avenue


message 82: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments If you happen to be in Spokane, WA today, http://outreach.ewu.edu/getlit/3189.xml


message 83: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Anyone collecting Bill's book reviews? Here's one of several John O'Hara books, from The Baffler, (brand new!) ::

"Decently Downward"
William T. Vollmann
[from The Baffler No. 24, 2014]

Books Discussed
Appointment in Samarra
Butterfield 8
Ten North Frederick
The New York Stories

http://thebaffler.com/past/decently_d...


message 84: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Anyone collecting Bill's book reviews? Here's one of several John O'Hara books, from The Baffler, (brand new!) ::

"Decently Downward"
William T. Vollmann
[from The Baffler No. 24, 2014]

Books D..."


Thanks for this, Nathan. Just what I needed when I needed it.


message 85: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Jeff wrote: "Thanks for this, Nathan. Just what I needed when I needed it. "

You have something in the works? Let us know when the time comes that we need to know.


message 86: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Louis-Jean wrote: "032c focuses on William T. Vollmann’s photography:
http://www.powerhousebooks.com/?p=1961"


Two of these pieces are now html'd ::

"WILLIAM T. VOLLMANN: Conflict, Compassion and the Process of Understanding", an essay by Alexander Provan & "WILLIAM T. VOLLMANN: She Who Is So Lovely Is Drinking In That Loveliness I’ve Drunk", an interview. The issue of this periodical is 2010, and aligns with the release of Imperial.


message 87: by Jeff (new)

Jeff Bursey (jeffbursey) | 44 comments Nathan "N.R." wrote: "Jeff wrote: "Thanks for this, Nathan. Just what I needed when I needed it. "

You have something in the works? Let us know when the time comes that we need to know."


Nathan, hi. Sorry, I missed this note when it first came up. At the time I was working on a Henry Miller paper (done; fate unknown) and something in Vollmann's review proved useful. If anything good comes of this I'll let you know.


message 88: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Bill reviews :: All the Light We Cannot See.

"Darkness Visible: ‘All the Light We Cannot See,’ by Anthony Doerr"

'All the Light We Cannot See is more than a thriller and less than great literature. As such, it is what the English would call “a good read.” Maybe Doerr could write great literature if he really tried. I would be happy if he did.'
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/11/boo...


message 89: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments New book review from Bill ::

"Twists of Hate: Two fictional takes on the war in Iraq"
http://bookforum.com/inprint/021_02/1...

"'WE HAD REACHED THE CROSS ROADS before noon and had shot a French civilian by mistake. . . . Red shot him. It was the first man he had killed that day and he was very pleased.' So far, this incident, and the style in which it is told, would be appropriate for either Redeployment or The Corpse Exhibition, two new works of fiction about the Iraq war, the first by Phil Klay, a former marine who served in Iraq during the surge, and the second by Hassan Blasim, an Iraqi filmmaker and writer who moved to Finland as a refugee in 2004. In fact it comes from a late Hemingway story called 'Black Ass at the Cross Roads.' The setting is France, sometime after D-day, when the Nazis are fleeing. The narrator’s business is to kill them as they go by."


message 90: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments A French interview from 2004

"William T. Vollmann : L’Américain tranquille"
publié le 8 septembre 2004, par David Boratav

http://www.chronicart.com/digital/wil...


message 91: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments An interview/article

"Between the Lines: William T. Vollmann on ‘Last Stories’" By Allen Pierleoni
Jul. 21, 2014

http://www.sacbee.com/2014/07/21/6572...

“Thoreau always said that it’s important not to let our knowledge get in the way of what’s more important, which is our ignorance. I want to always keep my ignorance so I can be open to what people are saying.”


message 92: by Geoff (new)

Geoff | 158 comments “I was very relieved by the order of (the reviews’ appearances),” he said. “After the starred reviews, Viking had the illusion of hope that maybe they would make their money back. Hopefully they’ll have to live by their word (while) facing another dreary prospect of publishing a long book that no one reads.”

Heh. Good article, merci.


message 93: by Larissa (new)

Larissa (TLarissa) | 15 comments Nice interview. Wish I could be in San Francisco to attend the reading at the “undisclosed historic San Francisco location” on Thursday!


message 94: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments I don't believe I've seen this one yet. From his 2006 visit to Norway.

"Destination: Norway ;; The Eddas -- epic sagas that form the core of Norse religion -- are best read under the ash trees in this Land of the Midnight Sun." Salon 11sept2006
http://www.salon.com/2006/09/11/norwa...


message 95: by Geoff (new)

Geoff | 158 comments Has anyone linked to this one from 2010 yet? (If so, sorry for the duplicate link.) I just found it by chance, and still have not had a chance to read it, but it looks like it has potential:

William T. Vollmann: Conflict, Compassion, and the Process of Understanding

http://032c.com/2011/william-t-vollma...


message 96: by Nathan "N.R." (last edited Aug 29, 2014 09:35AM) (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments So I had heard rumors but no one (!) posted links. A recent two part interview on Bookworm with Silverblatt ::
http://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/show...

Direct'er links ::
Part I :: http://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/show...
Part II :: http://www.kcrw.com/news-culture/show...


message 97: by Hadrian (new)

Hadrian (hadrian_gr) http://electricliterature.com/tom-bis...

A video interview with a Mr. Tom Bissell, who was a failed editor for RURD.


message 98: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Hadrian wrote: "A video interview with a Mr. Tom Bissell, who was a failed editor for RURD."

Nice!


message 99: by Nathan "N.R." (last edited Sep 08, 2014 08:13AM) (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Nathan "N.R." wrote: "A collection of Steven Moore's Vollmann reviews, from Rainbow to Expelled from Eden:

http://www.stevenmoore.info/vollmannr..."


Bumping this Moore=link just for the atch eee double toothpick of it.


message 100: by Nathan "N.R." (new)

Nathan "N.R." Gaddis (nathannrgaddis) | 734 comments Nathan "N.R." wrote: "A short interview ::

"The Renegade : William T. Vollmann on love, violence and why the FBI thought he might be the Unabomber" by E.J. Iannelli"


A longer version of this interview ::
http://www.iannelli.us/diderot/?p=203


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