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Emma Okay, this was kinda inspired by the 'Harry Potter Questions' thread that's currently going around, but it actually has nothing to do with that. I figured we could ask questions here about things that we don't really understand about Harry Potter, and then others of us who do understand those parts could answer any questions. I know this will be helpful for me. Please be FRIENDLY and KIND TO EACH OTHER. I should start it off, I guess. This one's kinda a joke and kinda pointing out a flaw in the series. Also, it's already gone viral-ish, so you've probably heard it. So Fred and George saw Ron sleeping with a man named Peter through the Marauders Map for all those years and never brought it up once?


Gabby Lol. That's pretty sad.


Emma I have a serious one now.

If Voldemort ever hit Harry with a killing curse before the seventh book, would he have still gone to the lingo place? If yes, would Voldemort go there too, or just Harry? Anyone have any ideas?


Carina Emma wrote: "I have a serious one now.

If Voldemort ever hit Harry with a killing curse before the seventh book, would he have still gone to the lingo place? If yes, would Voldemort go there too, or just Harr..."


To your original post - I never considered that, but perhaps they only looked for the places they were going and not at the map in general?

To respond to your second point, I think that if Harry had been hit with the killing curse from Voldemort anytime after GoF but before DH then Harry would have died - he only went to the in-between place as he had all the Deathly Hallows which allowed him the choice as to whether carry on living or to pass on. I also think that it was only with the Deathly Hallows that the horcurx inside Harry was killed. So no Voldemort would never have gone into the inbetween place.

At least that is how I interpret it!


Gretchen Mariah wrote: "Why didnt harry apparate from the malfoy manor????? Can we apparate without wands??????"

I am not sure if they need a wand or not. However, in regards to Malfoy Manor it had the same spells on it to not allow apparation, similar to Hogwarts. They were only able to disapperate on a side along with Doby because house elfs could apperate anywhere and the spells would not hinder them.


Leah Mariah wrote: "Why didnt harry apparate from the malfoy manor????? Can we apparate without wands??????"

I do not think wizards can apparate without wands, because in the chapter when they disguise themselves as ministry people, Reg Cattermole's wife has to apparate without a wand, and Ron said "do you think she'll be ok, apparating without a wand?" I think it is possible, but not encouraged.


Leah Emma wrote: "Okay, this was kinda inspired by the 'Harry Potter Questions' thread that's currently going around, but it actually has nothing to do with that. I figured we could ask questions here about things t..."

Well Fred and George specifically told Harry that they only used the map for secret passageways, nothing else.


Ayah I found a mistake in the books how when Harry sees Cedric die after that he is able to see the Thestrills in Book 5 but you would think he'd be able to see them at the end of book 4 but he dosent see them when they goo in the hogwarts carrige? any thoughts


Avani Ayah wrote: "I found a mistake in the books how when Harry sees Cedric die after that he is able to see the Thestrills in Book 5 but you would think he'd be able to see them at the end of book 4 but he dosent s..."

I forget, do the carriages bring them to the Hogwarts Express at the end of the year as well?


Gretchen Didn't they address that? I sorta remember that question being raised in the book by someone asking Harry that very question and he says something about it but I can't remember if it is he didn't go home that way or he was too distraught. But I remember it being asked.


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MJ Gretchen wrote: "Didn't they address that? I sorta remember that question being raised in the book by someone asking Harry that very question and he says something about it but I can't remember if it is he didn't g..."

I remember this being addressed before as well. I think the answer was that his parents' deaths hadn't really sunk in yet and, think about it, he was a very young child when it happened so maybe he doesn't remember it or has blocked the actual killings from his mind?


Avani MJ wrote: "Gretchen wrote: "Didn't they address that? I sorta remember that question being raised in the book by someone asking Harry that very question and he says something about it but I can't remember if ..."

But that's not the question. JK Rowling did address that. I believe Ayah's point was that at the end of the fourth book, when Harry went home after the school year, Harry should have been able to see the thestrals, because he had just witnessed Cedric's death.

I'm not saying I support that, though, because I don't remember whether the carriages bring them back to the Hogwarts Express at the end of the school year.


Gretchen I did understand the original point and was not talking about his parents. I'll try to go find my copy of the book because I was pretty sure the Cedric thestral issue was addressed.


Susan Avani wrote: "MJ wrote: "Gretchen wrote: "Didn't they address that? I sorta remember that question being raised in the book by someone asking Harry that very question and he says something about it but I can't r..."

Considering the emotional turmoil that Harry suffered at the end of GoF, that he didn't see the thestrals on the way to the Hogwarts Express really isn't all that surprising. If he'd have seen the thestrals, it would have been a plot point that would have had to be resolved, and JKR didn't have time to resolve it in GoF. Harry, being emotionally overwrought, paid no attention to what was going on around him and didn't notice the thestrals. It makes sense.


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Avani Gretchen wrote: "I did understand the original point and was not talking about his parents. I'll try to go find my copy of the book because I was pretty sure the Cedric thestral issue was addressed."

I know, I was replying to MJ.


Gretchen I am pouring through the book and trying to back up what I thought to be true that he didn't see them because he was too distraught at the end of book 4. I can not find it though. When googled all I found are people saying the same thing but with no page or site reference. Anyone else know if it was actually stated in the books or if we have just filled in Rowling's hole?


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Ayah Gretchen wrote: "I am pouring through the book and trying to back up what I thought to be true that he didn't see them because he was too distraught at the end of book 4. I can not find it though. When googled all ..."

Yeah i guess that makes sence soo thanks guys. :)


Daphne Carina wrote: "Emma wrote: "I have a serious one now.

If Voldemort ever hit Harry with a killing curse before the seventh book, would he have still gone to the lingo place? If yes, would Voldemort go there too,..."


I always thought that Harry would've died before book four if he was hit by a killing curse. However, he wouldn't after book four because Voldemort used Harry's blood in the potion thingy in the graveyard thingy. So if Voldemort has Harry's blood in him, Harry can't die.


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