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Sep 22, 2013 12:03PM

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I have drank much-needed coffee, but would have loved some breakfast..."
You will really like the Bosch series. It only gets better. Connelly is another one of my favorite authors, but I have fallen a few books behind on his stuff.

Pumpkin Pie bars sound awesome. I love pumpkin baked goods and pumpkin beer too. You shouldn't know about that since you are not of age yet ;-). I hope they are delicious. I'm going to have my wife bake up some Pumpkin chocolate brownies this week. I love pumpkin baking season.
Have fun at your party Victor.

I think you are right, Ella - and he did. I would have preferred to spend the money on a fabulous train trip - but, I guess I'll adjust!


great minds, think alike
Chris wrote: "You will really like the Bosch series. It only gets better. Connelly is another one of my favorite authors, but I have fallen a few books behind on his stuff. ..."
I think i will, too. if this first story is any indication, then i think this is my type of series. :)
OMG! Don't even want to think about this. It has been so long since I've cleared out all the giveaways I didn't win and other misc. stuff I really have no interest in. I try not to enter giveaways on books that I wouldn't read if I won, but at the same time, I wouldn't actually purchase some of them.

8:13 a.m. EDT Looks like I'm caught u..."
Thanks Katy! I suppose I don't have much of a choice :) He's been telling me for 25 years that all he needs is a boat, a bike and a b____; and now he has all there, lol!
5:46 p.m. and I'm going to check on my son for a bit. He is starting to get a bit depressed over the car wreck and not being able to work. Gonna cheer him up a little.
5:00PM Had a quiet day today. Helped my older sis get Skype so we had a nice conversation today, that was fun. Read a little bit, but not much so gonna read a bit now. Randy is at his sister helping her out. When he gets home we will have some coffee and maybe play some more DiabloIII.
7:23 p.m. just got back from my son's and I plan on taking a shower and reading for a bit.

Cindy, depression is insidious. What works for me is to laugh. And laugh. And laugh some more. Read something funny, watch something funny, go to George Takei's Facebook page... It doesn't work every single time, sometimes only time will ease it, but it helps if I catch things early enough, like earlier this week. Hopefully you can cheer up your son.
He is a little better now. It helped to have some company. Thanks Katy!


Have you tried going into a detox program? They have supportive medication that helps with the symptoms and long-term treatment programs to help continue that support.
Katy, I don't think it's too bad. It just seems more like he's bummed out more than anything. He's not sleeping all the time, isolating, or anything like that. I do plan to keep an eye on him for sure. Thanks for the concern. I love my friends on GR's!
I honest to God think that my pain is so bad at times that there's nothing that could help it. Last night was real bad.

I can relate. I'm so sorry. *hugs*
So glad we don't have to go through it alone. I do take comfort not in other people's suffering, but simply the fact that we support each other. Thanks Katy.
It's a damn shame to. I was under the opinion that methadone clinics were originally supposed to help people get off other drugs. It would appear that it has become nothing but a money-maker and they have no intention of helping anyone get off drugs at all. It's like they want you to become dependent on methadone for the rest of your life. Such a shame.
10:30 p.m. and I'm going to bed. Hurting really bad tonight. Sorry but I couldn't finish the book I wanted to finish tonight. Talk to you good folks tomorrow sometime.

12:04AM Well pretty much stayed away from my computer this evening. We played on the PS3 I did not even read much today. So now here I am late catching up on things.
Cindy sorry to hear you are in so much pain. Hopefully some rest will make you feel a little better.
As far as addictions to pain meds go I don't know about accept for the fact that my mom was addicted to meds in a bad way because of her quack doctor who should have been shot. Since they distorted her perception so much it has thwarted me from ever wanting to take anything. I probably never will either. Hope y'all can find a way to make things work better for you.
Kathryn I am glad to hear y'all had a good 'pre-birthday' for mark. Sounds like you had a very busy day!
Cindy sorry to hear you are in so much pain. Hopefully some rest will make you feel a little better.
As far as addictions to pain meds go I don't know about accept for the fact that my mom was addicted to meds in a bad way because of her quack doctor who should have been shot. Since they distorted her perception so much it has thwarted me from ever wanting to take anything. I probably never will either. Hope y'all can find a way to make things work better for you.
Kathryn I am glad to hear y'all had a good 'pre-birthday' for mark. Sounds like you had a very busy day!

Cindy, I use this stuff called Sore No More. It works REALLY WELL for sore muscles and joint pain, and the big tubs of it aren't too expensive. You should try some, it's awesome.
4:52 a.m. EDT Up from a nap, dozed off and on starting around 10. I have some editing to do this week! A new client with an epic fantasy, so it should be fun!

All this talk about pain and depression and drug dependence has really hit home with me. I have both chronic pain and chronic depression and insomnia from some pretty intense medical problems. I have been on meds for a long time and my conditions are progressive, which means they are EXPECTED to get worse over time, and I would be a wreck without my meds. I don't think you can judge other people's pain levels or the amount of pain you think they "should" be able to live with. Life has to have meaning for you and each person has to decide how to find that. I agree with Katy's analogy to insulin--a diabetic isn't addicted to insulin, why should people who take pain/depression meds for real problems be called addicts?

10:18AM Working on my laundry and gonna be reading soon. Think I will still work on the Stand, and throw in Still Life with Crows And then also And She Was which I have been dying to read, Alison Gaylin is a new Author for me.
Katy if you go back and I read I said I don't know about pain meds. I did not say my mom was addicted to Pain meds, they were not for pain, they were supposedly to help her with other issues (head and stomach) because her doctor was too lazy to check into other possible causes. But I must say I think that I would know my mom was an addict and she was for 20 or more years. She was a totally different person when she was taking them and cause many issues for her girls and our Dad. All I was saying is that I find myself not taking medication because of what we were subjected to growing up. I know you said it was nothing against me, but it felt otherwise. My intentions were not to hurt anyone only to share a bit of my life.
Katy if you go back and I read I said I don't know about pain meds. I did not say my mom was addicted to Pain meds, they were not for pain, they were supposedly to help her with other issues (head and stomach) because her doctor was too lazy to check into other possible causes. But I must say I think that I would know my mom was an addict and she was for 20 or more years. She was a totally different person when she was taking them and cause many issues for her girls and our Dad. All I was saying is that I find myself not taking medication because of what we were subjected to growing up. I know you said it was nothing against me, but it felt otherwise. My intentions were not to hurt anyone only to share a bit of my life.

What's the big deal about being an addict? Addicts are real people with problems, whic..."
For myself my selfish addiction to Air has lead to countless problems whilst bathing.

Terri, so sorry to hear that you're also dealing with this.
Chuck, my problem is that it's a stigma. If the medication is for a legitimate condition, why should people be called addicts for needing the medication to be able to enjoy a decent quality of life? I hope that I'll be strong enough to continue without the meds, but I do remember how bad things used to be before I started with the clinic, and... I had to admit I'm more than a little scared that I won't be able to handle it. I lost several jobs over the years due to my "attitude problem" because the pain made me grouchy.
Sean: LOL A much-needed burst of levity, thanks.
Lee: I also love IHOP. I love their iced coffee. Mmmmm. I drank myself sick on that stuff the first time I had it. I have learned to moderate myself now so that doesn't happen again.
11:55 a.m. EDT OMG, the book I just edited was SO MUCH FUN! Things like this make my life so worth living :-) I can't wait to let y'all know when it is available, it was a middle-grade epic fantasy and just a hoot to read. I tore through it in about 7 hours and now it's time to go back to reading... :-)
Katy it is fine as long as you understand I am not picking on anyone who needs pain meds. I know that most of you have legitimate pain and my post had nothing to do with 'pain meds' actually. I only shared a bit of my life that I don't normally share with people, but seeing as y'all feel more like family than friends I thought I would share that.
My mom had head issues and stomach issues and her doctor threw her on these 2 meds rather than trying figure out what else could be causing issues. One for 'stomach issues" that in turn caused headaches. We started calling it an addiction when she would have to go to the hospital and have her stomach pumped out. The times that she was straight were becoming less and less and yes she was officially 'high' during the times she was taking these meds. These were not taken as a daily dosage like pain meds are. These she would take when she would claim her stomach was bothering her. The doctor told her she had a nervous stomach? Last time I knew that was called butterflies. This was not like ok take them and sleep it off. She would take them and her whole mind was altered. It was like a week long drunk. And we took a lot growing up from being berated, saying home from school, to being physically abused just for trying to keep our mother safe while dad had to work. My dad had a lot of health issues too, but he always saw to mom first. Finally her quack retired and left medicine and it ended a long nightmare for all of us. Anyway because of the all of this I don't take many medications because it quite simply put, scares me, it is a psychological issue and I really can't help it. I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. It was really not my intention.
My mom had head issues and stomach issues and her doctor threw her on these 2 meds rather than trying figure out what else could be causing issues. One for 'stomach issues" that in turn caused headaches. We started calling it an addiction when she would have to go to the hospital and have her stomach pumped out. The times that she was straight were becoming less and less and yes she was officially 'high' during the times she was taking these meds. These were not taken as a daily dosage like pain meds are. These she would take when she would claim her stomach was bothering her. The doctor told her she had a nervous stomach? Last time I knew that was called butterflies. This was not like ok take them and sleep it off. She would take them and her whole mind was altered. It was like a week long drunk. And we took a lot growing up from being berated, saying home from school, to being physically abused just for trying to keep our mother safe while dad had to work. My dad had a lot of health issues too, but he always saw to mom first. Finally her quack retired and left medicine and it ended a long nightmare for all of us. Anyway because of the all of this I don't take many medications because it quite simply put, scares me, it is a psychological issue and I really can't help it. I am sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings. It was really not my intention.
12:25PM Enjoying a salad and some orange juice. Been reading The Stand, can't seem to pull myself away from that one to read anything else. LOL It's ok though I need to get it finished.

Thanks Kathryn it is quite enjoyable. This is actually my 2nd time reading it, but I don't remember much so it is like a first time read for me.

It might be a better idea to have a separate thread for these kinds of discussions, but on the other hand I don't want this group to turn into something other than a book group, that was why I created it.
I think if we have a separate thread it needs to be a 'rant or rave' thread and not a 'specific subject' thread so then we can share our thoughts with other people without a ton of different threads going.
I think if we have a separate thread it needs to be a 'rant or rave' thread and not a 'specific subject' thread so then we can share our thoughts with other people without a ton of different threads going.

Thanks Kathryn :) We will just say it is a joint effort! This is basically why I created the Blog it section, so people could post their thoughts there. We will see what happens I Guess!

4:30 p.m. and I'm reading for 30 minutes and then I must go and run some errands. Will be home earlier tonight and plan to finish A Conspiracy of Paper.
Veronica wrote: "4:34pm est Still at work. Counting down the minutes until 5pm."
You're almost there. Might be time for a restroom break! HeHe
You're almost there. Might be time for a restroom break! HeHe
4:39PM Had stuffed peppers for dinner and discovered that Kay loves them. LOL She had just tried them tonight and she ate 2. LOL. This makes me very happy. I should have figured she would like them, she is so like me with food. I love fruits and veggies, always have. So now gonna do a work out and then take Aves to the playground.



Mine will download tomorrow. I dont know if I am going to jump right in to read it though
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