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Jan 20, 2013 12:10AM
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Linda wrote: "Good luck!"Thanks. Tried to make you laugh with that last line.
I have two short stories on Amazon and editing a novelette.
Linda wrote: "Good luck!"Thanks. Tried to make you laugh with that last line.
I have two short stories on Amazon and editing a novelette.
You certainly made me smile :) I hope it all goes well for you, it sounds as if you're working hard!
I like James Patterson's writing buuut I must have just scanned over the fact Alex Cross was black because when Along Came a Spider came onto the television I must say I was kinda suprised lol oooo scan reading-you are my enemy :p
Rachel wrote: "I like James Patterson's writing buuut I must have just scanned over the fact Alex Cross was black because when Along Came a Spider came onto the television I must say I was kinda suprised lol oooo..."Would you elaborate please? Thanks.
I was simply confused when they chose Morgan Freeman to play his part. I somehow missed the fact he was black, when i re-read I realized I had misread some parts or scanned through when he was described? Just missed it somehow. Wasn't a bad thing by any means just never caught on that he was black
I like his writing but it just should've been more obvious maybe/gone into Alex Cross' history a bit more. OR I just scan read a little too much to get to the end/find out what happened.
I feel as if I've always known Alex Cross was black, maybe because I've been there from the beginning? But each of the novels has 'signposts' so maybe it is scanning? Sorry!
Linda wrote: "I feel as if I've always known Alex Cross was black, maybe because I've been there from the beginning? But each of the novels has 'signposts' so maybe it is scanning? Sorry!"Here's what I wrote about black detectives
http://shermandemetrius.blogspot.com/
But I get the impression that story and writing is more important to you, while some readers want him to show what they believe are "black traits"?
Demetrius, yes writing and story are more important to me, you're right. I think though that the black traits are there, just they are possibly more subtle references than some would like.I visited your blogspot link and agree with you. Back to the old thing of the Alex Cross being thin on plot ... again.
While I was there I read a sample of your 'The Dogs of Devonshire' on Amazon. Certainly grabbed me, not as hard as it grabbed Ashley though!
I don't have a kindle atm, but if/when I do get one, I'll be sure to get one of your stories.
Linda wrote: "Demetrius, yes writing and story are more important to me, you're right. I think though that the black traits are there, just they are possibly more subtle references than some would like.I visite..."
Thanks a lot Linda. Your comments are also intelligent and make sense.
I've never been told I make sense before, but thanks ...
Linda wrote: "I used to love Alex Cross but he has fallen victim to the James Patterson brand. As just about the only one of his books he actually writes alone I feel robbed of late. His Alex Cross stories are t..."
In the first book you get Hints of Mr cross as an angry Black man who's a victom in a white man's world. I only have read a couple of the sequels since the first book, But I'm sure that this is missing in the latter books.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
In the first book you get Hints of Mr cross as an angry Black man who's a victom in a white man's world. I only have read a couple of the sequels since the first book, But I'm sure that this is missing in the latter books.
Correct me if I'm wrong.
I think you are right, but it's all implied in the later stories, diet, accent etc. Maybe Patterson relies too much on readers having been there since the start?
Linda wrote: "I think you are right, but it's all implied in the later stories, diet, accent etc. Maybe Patterson relies too much on readers having been there since the start?"
But do you see him trying to evolve from his problems or does Patterson decide not to go into detail with it.
That was the reason why I thought the first book was at least okay. It showed the Character being somewhat flawed.
But do you see him trying to evolve from his problems or does Patterson decide not to go into detail with it.
That was the reason why I thought the first book was at least okay. It showed the Character being somewhat flawed.
I think, and it is only my opinion, that originally he saw a gap in the modern day market, a more urbane Tibbs if you like. A little more sophisticated maybe, and urbane. But, whether it was because Morgan Freeman was SO Alex Cross (and amazing) he really thought he didn't have to make the effort to explain for new readers.I think Alex Cross has the capacity to be brilliant but the writing has become formulaic and even dreadful incidents, such as when his partner was kidnapped and assaulted, rather than being given full rein were treated more as just bumps in the road. 1 disaster, check. 1 death, check, etc
And flawed characters are the very best, I find. But we're not permitted to see the battle within him, and that is a shame for us, as well as the character.
Yes I agree. By the way what is his best cross book besides the 1st one
I love the first 3 books. They are so stylized. I read them and I have Morgan Freeman walking through my head. I really dislike 'I, Alex Cross'. I think that may well be the point at which I finally decide to drop out the Alex Cross franchise, regrettably.
His new character is Michael Bennett, and I use the word new loosely. Bennett was introduced in Step on a Crack. I would have said it came out over ten years ago, it seems so long since I read it, but it was only 2007. The last one in the series is, I, Michael Bennett - don't quite get Patterson's fascination with that form of a title! In I, MB, two of Bennett's children are caught up in a crime. It is obviously set up to have a sequel devoted to the criminal in this book. I am getting increasingly frustrated with his writing. He (and his coterie of co-authors) are just cranking out the books and they no longer seem to have any depth. They just get increasingly more simplistic with each title.
Donna wrote: "His new character is Michael Bennett, and I use the word new loosely. Bennett was introduced in Step on a Crack. I would have said it came out over ten years ago, it seems so long since I read it...""I, The Jury" started it, but Spillane only used the I title once and the title made sense.
I 'tried' one of the Michael Bennett stories, it was so memorable I can't even remember the title ...James Patterson is, I read somewhere, increasing involved with his charity, encouraging young people to read, which is, of course, admirable. But I wonder, is that possibly why 'his' books are getting simplistic?
Linda wrote: "I 'tried' one of the Michael Bennett stories, it was so memorable I can't even remember the title ...James Patterson is, I read somewhere, increasing involved with his charity, encouraging young ..."
Good point
Tawanda wrote: "I'm trying to figure out why does he need a bad habit. I'm a big Alex Cross fan, have read every book and I think his bad habit is his job. There have been times when he's wanted to leave, but he's..."In one scene of "The Heat of the Night" Virgil Tibbs dislikes a rich Southern racist. He wants to "bring down that fat cat" so badly that it temporarily clouds his judgement of nailing the real murderer. Wouldn't this be a realistic flaw in Alex Cross?
Katherine wrote: "I stopped reading this series because I did not like Alex Cross. It wasn't because he was perfect, actually the opposite. He made some really dumb moves. I did like his side kick (forget his nam..."Looked at your comment at thought: If Alex Cross was a shrink, would he not figured out that the killer may be hostile towards him and want to harm him? Therefore, would he not have been ahead of the bad guy in "Spider" and hid his family or set up a trap?
Instead the killer gets into his house where his family is. Are these the "dumb moves" you mean?
I agree with Katherine, the Women's Murder Club is much better than the Alex Cross novels. I started out loving Alex Cross with the first couple of novels but then they began to drag, his voice becomes annoying and at times predictable. I can pretty much know what Alex Cross is going to do before he knows. Sadly, I enjoy his collaborating novels much more than his stand alones.
Danielle wrote: "I agree with Katherine, the Women's Murder Club is much better than the Alex Cross novels. I started out loving Alex Cross with the first couple of novels but then they began to drag, his voice bec..."I recently heard about the Womens Murder Club. I'll check it out. Have to admit, I like the Bosch books someone mentioned, and I haven't seen a book someone mentioned and I didn't like.
Linda wrote: "Demetrius, yes writing and story are more important to me, you're right. I think though that the black traits are there, just they are possibly more subtle references than some would like.I visite..."
I suddenly realized that you can read your favorite Amazon stories on your computer without a Kindle. I have done so.
Linda wrote: "Demetrius, yes writing and story are more important to me, you're right. I think though that the black traits are there, just they are possibly more subtle references than some would like.I visite..."
Hi Linda,
I remembered what you wrote me and am here to announce that I put the story up on Smashwords recently.
I believe this means you can view stories on different ereaders, on computer,
I have also finished a longer vampire story.
good day.
Louis wrote: "Demetrius wrote: "Louis wrote: "Demetrius wrote: "Hi Louis.I like a black heroes also. Please read what I wrote and tell me if you agree or not http://shermandemetrius.blogspot.com/"
Hi Demetrius,..."
I'm on smashwords now.
https://www.smashwords.com/books/view...
Tracy wrote: "I love Alex Cross and in my mind he is "Morgan Freedman" Alex is a smart,devoted, friend, parent,partner to all.
I love all J Ps work, but cant get into the womens murder club serious and have ev..."
You like Alex Cross because he is a good parent. What do you like about the stories and plots and so on?
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