A Dance with Dragons
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who should ride the three dragons?
I'm going to chime in with Dany, Arya, and Rickon.Although Bran and Jon are wargs, Bran is tied into all through the great tree, Jon's fate is uncertain and both still have their direwolves. Arya sent hers "away" and Rickon has yet to have much interaction with his.
Although Rickon could be replaced by a, yet to be revealed, descendant of the Targaryen dynasty.
Sansa is unlikely.
Rickon i like this.. and gives into my deep down hope that there will be a stark revenge
My money is on Tyrion Lannister because I suspect he is a Targaryan, and a Stark on the other. But I'm still not convinced that Daenerys will keep one, she isn't a warg and may lose all the dragons to those that are.
I really like your suggestion Marina, and I almost agree with you... though I suspect Aegon is the fake dragon, so I guess Daenerys, Tyrion and Jon.
Good question, but we are forgetting the main one ... Hodor, we would be fantastic as a dragon rider person, no? Ok lolYay! I'm not the only one who thinks Tyrion would be good, that way the riders are from the three main families - the first riders being Dany and Jon,
And Tyrion always wanted to be a rider, and can you imagine him like 'call me imp again I dare you....* torches the person*, it would make him even more cool :D
although yeah rikkon would be a contender purely because he hasn't had a role in the book really and starks needs someone to be able to ride them.
Kat wrote: "Good question, but we are forgetting the main one ... Hodor, we would be fantastic as a dragon rider person, no? Ok lolYay! I'm not the only one who thinks Tyrion would be good, that way the ride..."
Greetings Kat :)
I'm not sure about Tyrion. By the latest book, his character has almost taken the form of a "Loki" in that he's a trickster with an agenda known only to him. There also hasn't been any indication that he's a warg. It's assumed that as the last known descendant of the Targaryen dynasty that Dany is ... note I said assumed rather than shown in the novels.
Besides going from "pig" playactor to dragon rider would be a bit of a stretch .... lol.
hey C-Cose greetings to you!, yeah i know i just think it would be really great if he got to ride one, no one would mess with him thenyeah thats true, if we look at the warg element then dany can't even ride one ( i don't think she has that ability does she?) but hmmm out of the wargs Jon and Arya would be the best bet, arya's not in the seven kingdoms anyway so she could meet Dany! i can't see bran on a dragon, he seems to nice to try and take over westeros
It will never be Tyrion did we all forget what his family did to the targaryens?
No more than what the Starks did and other families, when Dany was mentioned I think she only mentioned Starks and baratheons mainlyBecause they killed rheagar mainly, yeah jaime killed aegon but he was mad anyway...and Tyrion is better than all those Lannisters together (long live Tyrion haha), such a hard question there are so many characters!
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I think that euron is going to get ahold of one of the dragons and wreak a lot of havoc with it. I could be completely wrong, though...
Probably one of them is going to be someone we haven't met yet, Dany is pretty much a guarantee and my inner nerd would explode if Arya got to ride the third.
my inner nerd! i liked how you put that!
C.C. wrote: "Ron SwansonThe Doctor
and Mr. T.
Everyone who doesn't say at least one black person is a racist."
That would be so funny if they turned up all of a sudden, but the doctor already has something cool to travel in so it's unfair he gets a dragon :P
Kirby wrote: "I think that euron is going to get ahold of one of the dragons and wreak a lot of havoc with it. I could be completely wrong, though..."But you may be right Kirby, or he may just get ahold of Daenerys...she does admit her current squeeze is "beneath her"
*Spoiler Alert*Daenerys should definitely be one. She can ride a Dragon as she proves at the end of Book 5. I'd absolutely explode too if Arya took another. I'm torn between Aegon, Jon and Tyrion though. The previous dragon riders of myth were all related though so I'm not sure how G.R.R. is going to resolve the issue. Sigh. So ready for book 6 I could split!
Dany, Aegon, and Jon. Since Jon is really the son of Lyanna and Rhaegar. 3 targaryans, 3 dragons...perfect :) This is what I want to happen!!
Tyrion, Dany and Jon for me. I'm not still buying the today canon about Aegon a Targaryen. If G.R.R. Martin wrote plainly that Aegon is, there should be a catch somewhere or a twist. It's very un-G.R.R. to simply reveal a seemingly important piece as boringly as he did Aegon.
Dany is given. She is the mother of the three and the stage is pretty much done for her.
Dany is given. She is the mother of the three and the stage is pretty much done for her.
i still don't know so many people are thinking tyrion, yes it would be cool but look at targaryan and lannister history..
In a way, it's actually about the Targaryen and the Lannister History. Tyrion, although wore his name with pride back then, never really identified with his line. Often he defied his own blood. Hell, he even killed his father. Since the beginning Martin lets Tyrion constantly deviates from his supposed roles. What kind of rebellion than siding with a Targaryen a "black sheep" Lannister could possibly be better?
Sansa is too afraid of her own shadow to ever consider getting onto the back of a dragon. She'll mess up her hair or something. Jon, Dany, and Tyrion. (I originally thought Arya, but Jon has taken that spot over in my mind. Arya has a different path to follow, I believe.)
If I remember right, Tyrion dreams of dragons too... and there's an interesting theory about his parenthood.@Marina... never thought about Shireen as practically made of stone, but your suggestion made me think about prophecies. Maybe I need to re-re-read the books. :)
Arezia wrote: "If I remember right, Tyrion dreams of dragons too... and there's an interesting theory about his parenthood.@Marina... never thought about Shireen as practically made of stone, but your suggestion..."
Yeah I heard that Tyrion theory about his parents!! He's looking more like a contender then if he dreams of dragons. Go Tyrion!!! go get yourself a dragon!!!!
Jared wrote: "Rickon i like this.. and gives into my deep down hope that there will be a stark revenge"Jared, to be honest, that is all I want from these books!
I think Bran is going to learn how to skin shift (or whatever he does) into a dragon... then he can really fly! I can't remember the exact words of the prophecy but I think Aegon and Dany are going to have to marry since he is a real Targaryen. Jon Snow just might be a Targaryen as well since we don't know who is mother really is..
nicci! someone agrees!! that's all i am waiting for now! if this series ends with no stark revenge i will hate it!!!
Arya, Tyrion, and Danearys, with Jon being the reincarnation of Azor Ahoi (or however its spelled).
And Jon sitting on the Iron throne, because I think it will be revealed he is the son of Lyanna stark and Rheagar tarygarian, making him the true heir. I go back and forth on whether or not He will sit it with Danearys, I have a feeling she will continue with her "breaker of chains" mentality and rule the free cities, or maybe something to do with Valyria? I dunno.
What about Victarion? He has the Valyrian horn that can control dragons ...
Marina wrote: "Jared wrote: "i still don't know so many people are thinking tyrion, yes it would be cool but look at targaryan and lannister history.."I think Tyrion is a contender beacuse he is the Mad King's ..."
Just what I was talking about!
About Victarion, dunno... this thread is making me want TWoW more than ever!
so now two major roles have differnt parents? why do people think the lannister wife was raped? and if that was true tywin would have been the first to go to war. not the last.
C.C. wrote: "Ron SwansonThe Doctor
and Mr. T.
Everyone who doesn't say at least one black person is a racist."
Ron Swanson would be so pleased that he could ride a flying meat-broiler.
Jared wrote: "so now two major roles have differnt parents? why do people think the lannister wife was raped? and if that was true tywin would have been the first to go to war. not the last."It's not a suggestion of rape, it's the suggestion of an affair of some sort.
I think its highly unlikely that its true. People seem to be switching all sorts of parenting around just because of a rumor about snow.. Guess what read the description for tyrion. he's a lannister, not another half breed! Plus if you pay attention, tywins wife isn't with him in kings landing....when he is hand of the king.
Dawid wrote: "What about Victarion? He has the Valyrian horn that can control dragons ..."isn't euron the one that has the horn? or did he give it to victarion? I think that euron will end up controlling at least one dragon...
Who cares about the horn that destroys anyone not immune to fire? As far as we know, only Dany could use it and live to tell the tale.
Besides, Euron gave the dragon horn to Victarion when he sent him to bring Dany back. It all leads to Dany. Victarion having the Horn is not the end but the means for Dany to control her dragons (which we know she still can't).
i believe there is some mention that the person that blows the horn isn't necessarily the person that gains power over the dragons. the power would be transferred to whoever owns the horn. therefore i think even if danaerys sounded the horn and survived being burnt it would result in her dragons being under the control of victarion/euron.
I think that you need to have "the dragon's blood" in you to ride a dragon. In that logic we can rule out Arya and Tyrion (I know it's very disappointing). Jon is a possibility (if he turned out to be a Targaryen) as well as Dany and Aegon (hope not though, not a big fan of him).
I am also with the camp that thinks Tyrion is the Mad King's offspring. Even Tywin said he would have killed the Imp if he could have proved he wasn't his.Jon because I also think he is probably Lyanna's and Rhaegar's son.
Dany because she IS the mother of the Dragons.
Jon,Dany&Aegon. This theory is purely based on assumptions though since we don't really know if Jon will resurrect or whether Aegon is really who he claims to be.
I guess they would be daenreys, Tyrion and the Bear.
Daenerys: Of course, self explanatory. She will ride Drogon.Jon Snow: He will be her hephew and husband. They will meet when She FINALLY comes to Westeros as the Others cross The Wall that falls because Melisandra blows the Horn of Joramun (Horn of Winter)and enters the Seven Kingdoms. After the Others are defeated, by Jon & the Watch, Daenerys and her dragons, there will be no need for Jon to he Lord Commander, so Jon can leave The Wall and marry Daenerys. He will ride Rhaegal.
Aegon Targaryen VI: If he is Rhaegar's son or the offspring of one of the Targaryen Bastards', he still has the blood of the dragon in him and that is all Daenerys needs to know to have him ride with her as her nephew and second husband. Now that Viserys is dead, she thinks she is the last Targaryen ,thinking that she can not have children(even thought she either had a miscarriage or stared to menstruate again!!!), she would embrace Aegon as her family. He will ride Viserion.
daenerys, cersei y jaime
@Kat - I would love Hodor to ride a dragon, but only if Bran was warging him. Teehee.@Marina - I never considered Shireen. But that is an awesome and great idea. She does have the blood of the dragon as well. Considering her great grandmother was a Targ. Any Baratheon at this point is fair game. Just always forget about her character. (thus making it seem even more likely IMO)
I agree Aegon is the Mummer's Dragon. I mean, he literally is the Mummer's Dragon. Illyrio and Varys have been keeping him secret - they are originally mummers. Makes perfect sense. Whether that means he's actually a Targ or not...hard to say.
I doubt Tyrion is one. I know people like to theorize he is Targaryen, but I just dont see how that would be possible. Yes, I read the books - I know that supposedly King Aerys was interested in Joanna and that he tooks some liberties during the bedding, but if any of the children were his it'd Cersei and Jaime, not Tyrion. Tyrion is born at Casterly Rock, far from Aerys.
Also Jon Snow will never be the legitimate heir to the throne, he'll still be a bastard even if he is R+L's son. Their were no witnesses of the wedding that we know of, if there was one, and their marriage was never officially recognized, again, if there ever was one. Therefore - Bastard - therefore - Not Legitimate anything.
Also - Dany CAN be burned. GRRM has said that the time she birthed the dragons was a special occasion that had to do with Blood Magic and timing.
Sorry for dream squashing -
I think the three riders will be Dany, Bran (not actually riding, just warging) and Maybe Gendry. That'd make me happy as hell.
Daenerys, Aegon, Jon. The last 3 Targaryens. (If Jon really is Rhaegar's son, which I do believe, because it fits everything perfectly.)Though that Mummer's Dragon thing makes me pause on Aegon...
And from what we've seen and heard, Aegon would be the perfect ruler to sit the throne. So we can be damn sure he'll die a horrible death soon.
who said jon died? he cant die...even by martin standards....and i dont think tyrion will ever be a dragonrider....he is too comfortable being on the ground...my choice dany,aegon and jon.....
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