The Girl With the Dragon Tattoo
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Did Anyone Else Hate This Book?
Read books first, devoured them...kinda DISliked movies. Lisbeth is so cool noone can do her justice.She was like Ludlum's Bourne...but closer to my world...kinda.
well i can say i liked this book. itz not bad though. but yeah i hated salander in 2nd and 3rd part, specially in 3rd part. she is arrogant. and i hated the ending of this series. it left me in confusion.
I vow not to read the other two i hated this one so much... wasted good life reading this dumb book. People just buy into the hype and read it and think if they don't like it it somehow means that must not be good enough book snobs, but i tell you this book was pushed onto us from it's marketing and people got cought hook,line, and sinker.. smh! Maybe if they made the book more about Lisbeth from the beginning..idk
Emma wrote: "I have to be honest; I hated this book.I found the first third of the book clunky, slow and bogged down with jargon and pointless detail.
I found it disturbing and hard to read (which is not nec..."
I totally agree
I absolutely hated this book, to me it just felt like he'd completely forgotten that he was supposed to be writing a story, and remembered that he wasn't just supposed to be describing a random person's jogging habits, in the last two chapters.
Loved the trilogy, the books get better as they go along.
My boss brought this book to me and said "Read it - it was so awesome - could not put it down!"And I honestly TRIED... but I stopped after a few chapters because I just could not go on... it was so incredibly boring!
I find and I think I said this once before that you either love it or hate.
If you hated these books, read another Swede namely Jonas Jonasson.If you liked these books read another Swede, Jonas Jonasson.
If you hate this unique book, The 100-Year-Old Man who climbed out the window and Disappeared by Jonas Jonasson, who may have a serious problem with your seriousness balance and need this adjustment.
I disliked the three Larsson books. I liked the Martin Beck books as they came out. I was 50% - 50% on Swedish writers therefore and then along came Jonas Jonassson and just in time.
Dan wrote: "If you hated these books, read another Swede namely Jonas Jonasson.If you liked these books read another Swede, Jonas Jonasson.
If you hate this unique book, The 100-Year-Old Man who climbed out t..."
thanks, i'll give it a try
Yes. I haven't disliked a book so intensely in some time.
I also immensly disliked this book. Not only because the writing was abysmal, long-winded and boring.
I barely finished it and got really angry while reading. What made me so angry: While the main plot is supposed to be about violence against women and abuse and so on, it painted a very pathetic and sordid picture of women. They all want to have sex with the protag, who is neither attractive nor interesting and middle-aged, but young women, old women, married women, they all want him. Even if they have been raped in a brutal and horrible manner just weeks before meeting him. There was not even one good, realistic, strong female character in this book for me - sorry, but Lisbeth was too artificial imho and was gone for me the moment she jumped into his bed.
I felt that the choice of topic (violence against women, rape and torture, with some Nazi sub-plot thrown in) was used as an eye-catcher to sell more books and not like a real concern of the author. The way the rape of Lisbeth Salander was covered in the book showed a horrible lack of insight and understanding imo.
That's sad David, but there's always better books.
I bought this book at Barnes & Noble because of staff recommendation.What a waste of money as I couldn't get beyond the first 3 pages.
I tried to watch the movie and it was just as bad as the book. I didn't watch more then 15 mins of it before I turned it off.
I had heard about the books but hadn't read them before I saw the movies. Even though I liked the character of Lisbeth, I thought the plots especially in the second and third movie were simply unbelievable. Even so, I did read the first book out of curiosity. I didn't like it, I found it boring, except for Salander and the plot which was okey. I haven't bothered with the other books because in those even the plot probably won't intrigue me enough.
Being Finnish I can't fault the translation (there must be enough experienced bilingual translators out there) and besides, many of the books I've read have been translated. But I think I also know something about the Swedish society (it's pretty close to Finnish) and it just didn't feel true. Maybe in a James Bond or Jason Bourne or something it would have been understandable but I just couldn't make myself to believe it.
(P.S. I always found it funny when people complain about subtitles, I won't watch anything that is dubbed. It's horrible. It should be allowed only in movies for small children...)
Absolutely loved this book and the two following! Writing is of a different country and culture, yetI had no problem following them and I loved the characters.
YES YES YES! I couldn't FORCE myself to get through this book. It was the most boring thing I have ever read. I hated it.
Emma wrote: "I have to be honest; I hated this book.I found the first third of the book clunky, slow and bogged down with jargon and pointless detail.
I found it disturbing and hard to read (which is not nec..."
Sorry, but I LOVED LOVED LOVED all 3.
I didn't hate it, but it was very dark and gritty. Kind of hard not to grimace while reading. But, maybe that's a good thing that the author was good enough to make me feel that way? I'm not going back to read the second boook though.
Sara wrote: "I didn't hate it, but it was very dark and gritty. Kind of hard not to grimace while reading. But, maybe that's a good thing that the author was good enough to make me feel that way? I'm not going ..."
I agree with everything you said but I hated the book too. I'm not going back to read anymore of the series or watch the movies.
I agree with everything you said but I hated the book too. I'm not going back to read anymore of the series or watch the movies.
Valerie wrote: "Absolutely loved this book and the two following! Writing is of a different country and culture, yetI had no problem following them and I loved the characters."
I didn't care for the first book but if you want to read some good books on Nordic Crime, you might want to check out this group if you're not part of it already.
http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/4...
I didn't care for the first book but if you want to read some good books on Nordic Crime, you might want to check out this group if you're not part of it already.
http://www.goodreads.com/group/show/4...
Emma wrote: "I have to be honest; I hated this book.I found the first third of the book clunky, slow and bogged down with jargon and pointless detail.
I found it disturbing and hard to read (which is not nec..."
Ali wrote: "Sorry! Not offended by your comments! I loved all three books, even though they are not within the genres I normally go for. I would agree that the first half of the first book is very slow to get ..."
I didn't care for it either. I didn't see anything relatable or redeeming in the characters, nor did I enjoy the plot. In the end you discover the truth, but it wasn't satisfying and that's never a good way to end a book. Needless to say, I haven't read the rest.
#335. Aren't these books fantasy or Grimm fairy tales? Very similar plots. Lots of evil wolves, teletronic magic, escapes, walks in the wood. etc. I think you may be somewhat wrong. :)
Dan wrote: "#335. Aren't these books fantasy or Grimm fairy tales? Very similar plots. Lots of evil wolves, teletronic magic, escapes, walks in the wood. etc. I think you may be somewhat wrong. :)"there isn't a right and wrong when it comes to opinions, but you're entitled to yours.
I am amazed - not at the dichotomy of opinions, but at the vehemence behind them. Apparently, no one thought the book was just "OK" - either loved or hated!
Andrew wrote: "I am amazed - not at the dichotomy of opinions, but at the vehemence behind them. Apparently, no one thought the book was just "OK" - either loved or hated!"I agree I think that you either loved it or hated it. I said the same thing once before here.
I enjoyed all three books immensely myself. I saw the American version of the first book and I saw all three of the Swedish version. with sub-titles and dubbed English. I still enjoyed them. You either love them or hate them.
Gilbert wrote: "If people want to read fantasy or fairy tales then these books aren't for them. It is okay. But to say these books aren't excellent..."I'm sorry, you misspelled "excrement."
The uniqueness of the character of Lisbeth Salander made the trilogy a success. The writing was disjointed and there wasn't anything special about the storyline. The supporting cast were cardboard cut-outs from many other previous books and movies.I made it part way though the third book and couldn't stand it any longer.
My gf fell asleep during the movie; a good reflection of my sentiments.
Andrew wrote: "I am amazed - not at the dichotomy of opinions, but at the vehemence behind them. Apparently, no one thought the book was just "OK" - either loved or hated!"I wouldn't say that I hated the book, I just didn't think it was very good.
Reading most of it all I could think was, can we get on with it....okay can we get to the point. There just a lot of blabbering and nonsense. The concept and characters were interesting and the only reason I kept reading, but I couldn't even make it past the first part of the second one, it was just boring and slow.
All 3 books are cumbersome and by that I mean too much information that doesn't move the plot or help character development. Scenes where characters eat and watch are not needed. The series should have been cut in half by a good editor and I believe the overall story wouldn't have suffered. My wife and I actually watched the Swedish film first and enjoyed it so we decided to read the books. Overall, it is a good story but each book should have been half the length they are. If I hadn't seen the film I believe I wouldn't have finished the first book, let alone read all three. I sometimes wonder if it's the translation that wasn't very good and sort of spoiled the books?
I also didn't get very far into it. It was just so poorly written. And then after learning about the sexual violence I decided no to try anymore cause it wasn't going to be worth it. I'm glad I didn't waste my time to be honest.
I finished it. Its pretty rough in places - particularly the details of the crimes... I don't recommend it.
Anna wrote: "I got about 2 chapters in and stopped (which is something I never normally do.)I just was not interested, it didn't grip me, I couldn't get into the story and found it didn't flow.
Maybe I should ..."
Didn't like either of those novels myself. I read all of the GWTDT, but only read like 3 chapters of the DaVince code. (I really didn't like that one.) I still don't see what the excitement is for Dragon Tattoo. I couldn't have cared less for the characters by the end of the story. No desire to read book 2 or 3.
Meran wrote: "Nope. Loved it. Yes, it's from a different country, a different culture. Other peoples think differently, plots SHOULD be differently paced. I enjoy the differences.I must note that reading all t..."
Agree completely! Loved and read all three books, different but great.
Ann wrote: "Ray wrote: "This is not a book for women. It is too close to the true evil and anger in the world. I loved it because of that reality. Not that I like those things, it's just real life."Sorry - bu..."
I agree with Ann, I also think saying this book is not for woman is ignorant, not all woman are the same, neither are men.
Not to annoy anyone, but it is amazing how endless this discussion is.
People really hate Girl with the Dragon Tattoo. I'm surprised too at the amount of posts.
Dan wrote: "Not to annoy anyone, but it is amazing how endless this discussion is."ditto
Well, this has been wonderfully therapeutic. I must admit that I was feeling a little down having recently received my first two star rating (without even a brief review to get some insight into the unimpressed reader's reasoning). Now that I've read over three hundred passionately negative reviews of what is one of the most acclaimed (and profitable) trilogies of this century, I'm smiling with new found perspective. Thanks for that. And though I certainly appreciate and agree with the criticisms above, I liked the books. As I found much of Larsson's style somewhat stilted (which may be more an effect of the translation than his writing), I didn't appreciate how violent they were until I (tried) to watch the movies.
I couldn't put this book down, I felt the same way about the second one
Translation is very important. My wife just finished reading another Swedish author's work The 100-Year-Old Man Who Climbed Out the Window and Disappeared and she laughed all the way through. I bought it in English, not being up to German or Swedish, and I've been struggling as the English translation is flat and plodding. The first thirty pages are, therefore, not particularly clever and amusing. My wife read these thirty English pages and is amazed at what a difference there is in the two versions. So a translator can obviously make or brake a book that has been translated into many languages. She says the English word choice sunk it. The German translation, however, conveys a wonderfully wry, if fatalistic attitude, that keeps you chuckling all the way through. The German translator is apparently a jewel.
However, I believe there were more problems in the Girl Who trio than just the translation. These are mentioned above.
(Going down into the basement now until the all clear signal sounds.)
I found the book too violent. It made me miserable, it is certainly not worth reading. A disgrace to humanity, if it can come such a state..
aaah yeah, I think it was the hype but this book just didn't do it for me and I felt bad that I wasn't gushing over it like everyone else was!
I agree, I did not like this book. I finished it simply because I hate to start/leave a book in the middle. But if given the option to read the next... I would pass in a heartbeat.
everyone at my old school thought it was pure genius. i couldnt get into it. i knew who did it right away and it took forever to sum up. there were a lot of unnecessary scenes and i didnt get the hype
I couldn't bear this book either---read 40 pages and then gave up in disgust and gave the book away.
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I did listen to them on CD, but found the whole story plot a bit boring. The first book was indeed better than the other two. I think it could have easily just been a stand alone.
I did watch the original movie and thought it ws okay (I didn't like the actress that played Lisbeth)but I really like the second (US?) version of the movie.
It is strange for me to like a movie over a book, but I did.