Men Who Hate Women: From incels to pickup artists, the truth about extreme misogyny and how it affects us all
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Of course, such men are often motivated by anger and a desire to punish the spouse. But, while killing their partner as an act of revenge may be understandable, for a man to kill his children (who are innocent bystanders in a marital breakdown) is a very different matter. I believe it is often a twisted act of love, as the man crassly believes that the crisis in their lives is so great that the children would be better off dead.33 The use of the word understandable to describe a man’s murder of his wife and the phrase act of love to describe the killing of his own child is symptomatic of how ...more
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"UNDERSTANDABLE" and "ACT OF LOVE" these men are truly sick in the head and deserve to rot, whether that's in prison or underground.
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Our father didn’t lose control of himself, he had lost total control over us when we escape[d] him. To regain control, he had to kill us. The fact that our father was considered “a good man” to neighbors and outsiders showed the level of control that he had over who he abused.
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Women have always been the canaries in the coal mines, quietly singing. But we are so used to seeing them die at men’s hands, so used to justifying and excusing it as normal or “understandable,” that it wouldn’t occur to us to consider this enough of an aberration to raise alarm. And so women continue to suffer and die in silence.
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From his description of women as “fat pigs” and “dogs” to his assertion that putting a wife to work is “dangerous”; from his own admissions of grabbing women “by the pussy” to his implication that women on their periods
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are unstable; from his description of Mexican immigrants as rapists to his tweets telling four ethnic minority U.S. congresswomen to “go back and help fix the totally broken and crime-infested places from which they came”—the president repeatedly voiced ideas and deeply misogynistic, racist statements that fit neatly within the worldview of male supremacists and the alt-right.11
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this is the scum y'all voted president. as far as I'm concerned, America is getting what it deserves. if it all falls apart.....well, y'all basically asked for it by voting him into office <33333
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A Trump presidency will improve our standing… We now have a s**tlord for President who has insulted ugly women as “fat pigs,” and whose private macho talk, which all masculine men have done, was relentlessly attacked by the press but not punished in the voter booth… This means that, when you talk like Trump, the first thought your listener will have is, “He sounds like the President of the United States.”12
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for all those who said it wouldn't be a big deal and that people (ahem women) were being dramatic and exaggerating for saying how bad he would make things. normalizing sexism, misogyny, and racism. and about a million other things.
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“If Trump can do these things without getting arrested, there is no reason an incel male should not be able to either.” Another said, “America has spoken wenches, Trump is the president. Nobody cares about your cunt whine anymore. And it is now time to show them this truth.”
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First, these men truly don't know what a comma is, nor do I believe they have ever seen one in their entire lives. Second, real big of them to blame women for whining when all I've seen in this book is how much and how often men complain and bitch and moan about literally everything.
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His defense of the need for a wall to keep out Mexican immigrants, with the racist assertion that many of them are rapists.13 His use, when describing immigrants, of the phrase “These aren’t people. These are animals.”14 His scaremongering descriptions of “caravans” of refugees traveling from Central America to the United States, in which he claimed, “women are raped at levels that have never been seen before.”15 His use of such rhetoric to excuse inhumane policies, like separating young children from their families and keeping them in cages. These were not just far-right policies. They were ...more
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This is how you know America is worthless now.
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Trump’s concern for female victims of sexual violence seems curiously limited to instances in which it can be weaponized against immigrants and minorities.
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he publicly threatened to revoke federal funding from the University of California, Berkeley, after protests there led to the cancellation of a speech by Yiannopoulos. “If U.C. Berkeley does not allow free speech and practices violence on innocent people with a different point of view—NO FEDERAL FUNDS?” tweeted Trump. Immediately after Facebook closed the accounts of a number of racist, misogynistic far-right figures, including Yiannopoulos, Trump warned that he would “monitor the censorship of AMERICAN CITIZENS on social media platforms.”
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But her emails!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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“Yes, absolutely, it’s validation. When you have the most powerful man on the planet who is openly sexist—well, he’s more than that, he’s a misogynist—when he can openly talk about women in the way that he does, that obviously gives justification to others for their views.”
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Trump’s rhetoric during the 2016 election made sexism more socially acceptable among Republicans.
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Davies (who sat on the House of Commons Justice Committee at the time) told attendees that the UK justice system discriminated against men and was biased in favor of women.
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LOOOOOOL good joke tell it again
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Davies repeated false and misleading statistics, another common MRA tactic, claiming that one-third of victims of domestic violence are men.
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1 in 5 women are raped while 1 in *******71******* men are raped. I'll just leave that here.
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Senator Pauline Hanson of the populist One Nation party successfully called for an inquiry into the family court system, claiming (without providing evidence) that women routinely lie about abuse to gain advantage in court proceedings.
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"Without evidence" is basically their collective middle name. They don't have evidence because they're constantly lying and making shit up out of thin air. Evidence doesn't exist for them lmfaoooo
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the party leader, Steve Dickson, repeated the completely debunked manosphere statistic that “there are up to twenty-one fathers killing themselves every week in this country, and people need to be aware of that.”30
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They really just make up lies LMFAO
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Betsy DeVos arranged meetings to discuss campus sexual assault with men’s rights groups well known for their misogynistic views and attacks on sexual violence survivors.31
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Internalized misogyny strikes again.
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that “female initiation of partner violence is the leading reason for the woman becoming a victim of subsequent violence.”32
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Soooooooo much victim-blaming. Wild.
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“Would You Rather Your Child Had Feminism or Cancer?”
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I would rather eat a whole bowl of live crawfish than have a child with a man. Yuck.
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no surprise that Bannon’s appointment was gleefully received by famous white supremacists and misogynists, from Spencer to former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke to the chairman of the American Nazi Party.
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GRAND WIZARD that still kills me lmfao go back to your D&D game in your mommy's basement, dude.
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that politicians may be aware of the enormous support they stand to receive from extremist communities when they tap into their ideology. One of the clearest such indicators is the way in which the politicians may subsequently refuse to apologize for their rhetoric or double down with messaging that will appeal to the same communities, even when challenged. We saw it when Trump responded to the deadly, white supremacist Charlottesville rally by saying that there were “very fine people on both sides.” (He later refused to apologize, claiming that the utterance had been put “perfectly.”)
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perhaps emboldened by the Trump effect, there has been a surge in extremist figureheads themselves standing for elected office,
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Oh, who could've guessed!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Hint: every single woman alive.)
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After the Elliot Rodger massacre, Sargon of Akkad released a YouTube video in which he blamed women and feminists for Rodger’s actions: You are responsible for perpetuating it, by disenfranchising these poor fucking guys who don’t have any options left… The question you and all of your stupid fucking feminist cultists need to be asking is: why are these men becoming misogynists in the first place? What is this feminist-run society doing to them that is causing them to go insane?
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Typical male reaction because they can't comprehend or understand the word ACCOUNTABILITY.
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Consider r/TheRedPill, a particularly active and virulently misogynistic manosphere forum. In 2017, it was revealed that the creator and chief moderator of that forum was none other than Republican New Hampshire state representative Robert Fisher.53 Offline, he was a respected, mainstream politician. Online, he had written that rape wasn’t all bad, because at least the rapist enjoyed it. In another post, he wrote, “Feminists are obsessed with rape because we live in a rape fantasy culture, where feminists wish they were hot enough to be rape-able.”
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The red pill being a made-up factor of a plot of sci-fi movies created by transgender siblings will never not make me laugh.
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Anything quite good, in fact, one begins to suspect, is somehow vaguely male in Peterson’s book, but if you want an explanation of why exactly or who gets to decide, you’re immediately rebuffed by the preemptive deflection: it’s symbolic, okay? So what is symbolically female, you might ask? Chaos, Peterson claims, is associated with the feminine.60 Thanks for that, Jordan. (Peterson defines chaos as “all those things and situations we neither know nor understand,” so you can see why, for him personally, that might be quite a good description of women.)
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lmfao
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“The masculine spirit is under assault.”65 Feminism (as represented by the Women’s March) is, according to one tweet, a “murderous equity doctrine.” “We’re alienating young men. We’re telling them that they’re patriarchal oppressors and denizens of rape culture… It’s awful. It’s so destructive. It’s so unnecessary. And it’s so sad.”66
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IM SORRY YOU ARE FUCKING PSYCHOTIC LOL
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All these are arguments beloved by MRAs: men are under attack; feminism is an evil, vindictive movement, literally capable of killing men; we are in the midst of a witch hunt against all men.
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Interesting that they're worried about men being killed when they are super enthused about killing women....... (:
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he describes the “devastating force” of rejection when women deny men a date.
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Why do men think they deserve a date???? They don't even deserve to be worm food.
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“We white men treat women the best in the whole goddamned world, yet you treat us as shit… You want to see some ‘toxic masculinity’? Just ask bitch (there will be no way back).”
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LMAOOOO oh you do, do you???? Don't make me LAUGH
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So you end up with a chain, which starts in the most extreme online forums: men like Matt Forney explicitly advocate beating women, and incels discuss keeping women as sex slaves. Then there are the direct leaders of those communities: men like Valizadeh, who have egged their followers on, and Elam with his “Bash a violent bitch month.” Next, men like Yiannopoulos, who sing their hearts out while Nazi salutes rain down around them but maintain a wide-eyed innocence if they get caught; who repeat some of the most outrageous ideals of the online mob but always claim they’re “just being ironic”; ...more
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The end result is revealed with terrifying clarity in a New Yorker interview with male supremacist Mike Cernovich. It describes an incident witnessed by the journalist and planned by Cernovich with military precision in which Cernovich used a video on social media platform Periscope to rally thousands of his followers to a narrative he had crafted about Hillary Clinton’s emails, using the hashtag #HillarysHacker. Before Cernovich had finished filming, the hashtag was trending on Twitter. Within a day, more than 42,000 tweets had been posted with the hashtag. The topic was widely discussed on ...more
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Men today are terrified. They’re living in a world in which they are persecuted and threatened within an inch of their lives. Any one of them, regardless of his past actions or relationships, is at risk of seeing his happiness destroyed, his career decimated without a moment’s notice. Angry, deceitful, manipulative women are on the warpath, and no man is safe. No scalp is off-limits, no history so unblemished to be safe from deliberate warping and destruction.
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Aww he's afraid for his career? And his happiness? Awwwwwwwwww well, women are afraid of being violently murdered, but poor, poor men :(((
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“Every woman on this planet, regardless of her education or background, is a bitch, a cunt, a slut, a gold digger, a flake, a cheater, a backstabber, a narcissist, and an attention whore that is dying to get out… this, I’m afraid, is the true nature of women. This is the true nature that will come forth if society doesn’t put constraints or limitations on a woman’s behavior and choice.” —Daryush Valizadeh (“Roosh V”), in a blog post titled “The True Nature of Women”
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Someone needs to take this man off the face of the earth. Permanently.
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Also, the idea of a woman playing hard to get vs No Means No…
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Okay no genuinely: WHAT DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND???? EVEN A FUCKING BABY KNOWS WHAT "NO" MEANS, YOU DUMB FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT.
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in spite of the fact that a relatively small number of high-profile men have faced consequences at all, compared to the millions of women who have recounted their experiences of abuse without ever having seen justice; in spite of the fact that many high-profile men accused of sexual violence by dozens of women continue to walk free…
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According to a New York Times analysis, it is estimated that around 200 “prominent” men in the United States lost jobs, roles, professional ties, or projects after public allegations of sexual harassment, with just “a few” facing criminal charges.2 Compare this to the fact that over twelve million tweets were sent using the #MeToo hashtag within its first four months alone, not including the millions of women who took to other social media platforms to share their stories.
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What we have seen over and over again, as the trajectories of high-profile men like Donald Trump and Brett Kavanaugh clearly demonstrate, is that even multiple accusers or dozens of correlating accusations are often not enough to derail powerful men’s careers.3
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In fact, the New York Times investigation revealed that at least 920 people had come forward with sexual misconduct allegations relating to the 200 men in their investigation, suggesting an average ratio of 4.5 accusers per single case. It further pointed out that “more than 10 percent of the ousted men have tried to make a comeback, or voiced a desire to, and many never lost financial power.”
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it has been reported that, in the technology industry particularly, “a number of men who have been accused of, and admitted to, sexual misconduct have reemerged on the scene—sometimes within months of allegations surfacing publicly. Many have returned with new startups or venture funds backed by investors well aware of their past behavior.”4
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Men are not punished for crimes against women EVER.
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Yet in spite of all this hard evidence, the narrative surrounding #MeToo in the mainstream media leaned far closer to manosphere hysteria than to actual facts.
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Because men are sooo dramatic and YEARN to be victims.
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of women experience workplace sexual harassment and assault, that their employers regularly fail to take any action over it, and that the vast majority (far from the specter of conniving, manipulative accusers conjured up by the media) never report what has happened at all. Most are too scared, terrified that they won’t be believed, that they’ll be blacklisted or seen as a “troublemaker,” or that their careers may suffer as a result.
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2016 UK poll of over 1,500 women, conducted by YouGov for the Trades Union Congress and the Everyday Sexism Project, found that over half of all women and almost two-thirds of young women have experienced workplace sexual harassment and that 80 percent did not feel able to report it to their employer. Of those who did report it, nearly three-quarters said that there was no change, and 16 percent said that they were treated worse as a result.6
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Men (particularly those influenced by the manosphere or its ideology) are not only afraid of women who make sexual assault allegations. They are terrified of women’s advancement in the workplace as well. Specifically, they have been led to believe that women’s gains can only come at their own expense.
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After he was eventually fired, Damore went on to speak widely about his ideas and the belief that Google had discriminated against him as a white man.
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There's literally no such thing as discrimination against white men. That doesn't exist LOL.
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to debate the persecution of white men in the workplace.
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Again, nooooo such thing.
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2012, when two young men were convicted of the rape of a minor in the Steubenville case.10 The media directed public outrage to focus not on the devastated life of the victim, whose ordeal was filmed and spread virally on social media, but on the “blighted” lives of the perpetrators, described by a CNN correspondent as “star football players,
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FUCK those pedophiles. I hope they rot.
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The most modest efforts toward equality are repositioned by angry white men as a potential threat
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A man in the UK is 230 times more likely to be raped himself than be falsely accused of rape, so low is the number of false allegations.15 In the meantime, 85,000 women each year in the UK experience rape or attempted rape.16
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And THAT is a statistic.
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women, as in incel culture, are equated seamlessly with inanimate commodities for possession and trade.
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Manosphere figures such as Valizadeh, and many others like him, are effectively holding women hostage, claiming that more will die if the sexual demands of incels are not met. But somehow, seemingly, when it is “just” women at stake, all our societal norms about not negotiating with terrorists fly out the window.