Maybe You Should Talk to Someone: A Therapist, Her Therapist, and Our Lives Revealed
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As a therapist, I know a lot about pain, about the ways in which pain is tied to loss. But I also know something less commonly understood: that change and loss travel together. We can’t have change without loss, which is why so often people say they want change but nonetheless stay exactly the same.
Lori Gottlieb
Before I became a therapist, I always wondered why it was so hard for people (myself included!) to make changes, especially changes that we know will be positive (a much-needed job change, getting out of a bad relationship, disengaging from the same recurring argument with a family member). When I paid more attention to the loss involved, it all made sense: we cling to what we know, because there’s comfort in the familiar, even if the familiar is downright miserable. Knowing this helped me to work with people differently in the therapy room. It wasn’t just about helping people to see the changes they could make. We also needed to talk about their fear of losing something that had become comfortable and of moving outside of their comfort zone. Once they could talk about the loss, they could more easily make the change.
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Rebecca West
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Rebecca West
Well said 👌
Shania Marks
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Shania Marks
Ur my hero 😘😍
J. “Autumn” Gray Eakin
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J. “Autumn” Gray Eakin
This is great. In the recovery support groups I attend & facilitate, we talk about just this (the quote and your comment sum it up much better) but also we talk about how research recently seems to su…
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Doing something prompts you to do something else, replacing a vicious cycle with a virtuous one. Most big transformations come about from the hundreds of tiny, almost imperceptible, steps we take along the way.
Lori Gottlieb
There’s something so inspiring about the Nike slogan, “Just do it!” But most of us don’t “just do it.” In Maybe You Should Talk to Someone, I write about the stages of change—from pre-contemplation to action and maintenance. By the time we’ve made a decision, we’ve probably gone through this process without even realizing it. I always tell patients, “Action begets action.” One small action leads to another small action which leads to another, and then one day, you look at where you are and say, “I’m so different from how I was a year/five years ago.”
Mary Langer
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Mary Langer
So true, and this applies to writing as well. Writers need to just get something down so they have something to work with. "Action begets action," and "success breeds success."
K Voigt
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K Voigt
Forget the all or nothing. Recovering from an injury is a good example..you start out with little steps to gain strength and mobility. 5 minutes becomes. 10 minutes, etc
J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
I found this to be true for me as well. I was in a low-point of my life in 1992, after a few years of therapy. I decided to quit smoking after taking a personal growth and development seminar. I was i…
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Above all, I didn’t want to fall into the trap that Buddhists call idiot compassion—an apt phrase, given John’s worldview. In idiot compassion, you avoid rocking the boat to spare people’s feelings, even though the boat needs rocking and your compassion ends up being more harmful than your honesty. People do this with teenagers, spouses, addicts, even themselves. Its opposite is wise compassion, which means caring about the person but also giving him or her a loving truth bomb when needed.
Lori Gottlieb
This is exactly what happens to me after the breakup. My friends offer “idiot compassion”—“You dodged a bullet!” “He’s dead to me!” But Wendell offers “wise compassion” by holding up a mirror to me and asking me to look at my own role in the situation. Idiot compassion feels so soothing in the short-term, but in therapy, we want to give people something far more valuable than a Band Aid. We want to give them a sense of awareness that will serve them well in the long term.
Maureen Ellsworth
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Maureen Ellsworth
new vocab tool--"loving truth bomb"
J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
Sometimes a Band-Aid is what we need in the moment, so the healing can start.
KSR
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KSR
I immediately saved that passage and have shared the idea with a few people.
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People often mistake numbness for nothingness, but numbness isn’t the absence of feelings; it’s a response to being overwhelmed by too many feelings.
Lori Gottlieb
This is something I see so much in the therapy room. People come in, and they’re in pain, and understandably they want to stop feeling they pain. So they say, essentially, Help me not to feel. But it doesn’t work that way. If we numb our feelings, it’s not that they go away. They just come out in other ways, and the more we try to suppress them, they stronger they get. Numbness isn’t at all “nothingness.” Numbing is what we do when we feel flooded by the intensity of our feelings.
Nermin Bajrami
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Nermin Bajrami
..., the* stronger they get.
Nina ( picturetalk321 )
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Nina ( picturetalk321 )
This.
J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
I think you put it better later when you write that people want to understand their pain, to find some meaning in it.
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“Your feelings don’t have to mesh with what you think they should be,” he explained. “They’ll be there regardless, so you might as well welcome them because they hold important clues.” How many times had I said something similar to my own patients? But here I feel as if I’m hearing this for the first time. Don’t judge your feelings; notice them. Use them as your map. Don’t be afraid of the truth.
Lori Gottlieb
We tend to place value judgments on our feelings—certain feelings are often considered “positive” (like, joy), and others are considered to be “negative” (like, anger). But our feelings are important because they give us crucial information about what we want. They’re like our GPS. “Oh, I’m sad—let me figure out what’s not working about my current situation, so I know a better direction to go in.” We tend to try to avoid the “negative” feelings, not realizing that the way to feel better is to welcome all of our feelings and use them as data to guide us.
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J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
I was so much in my head that I would minimize and discount most emotions as secondary. Then a someone shared a phrase that was helpful to me- “First, you feel, and then you heal, and then you underst…
Kristen
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Kristen
Our feelings, especially the unpleasant ones, are also good indicators for when we need to set a boundary or listen to our intuition.
Holly
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Holly
Unless you have anxiety, like me, and then you can't trust your thoughts and feelings because they are all over the place and out of proportion to the situation.
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The things we protest against the most are often the very things we need to look at.
Lori Gottlieb
I see a lot of couples in my practice, and often when one partner says something that’s so true about the other partner, there tends to be a big reaction. “I’m not like that AT ALL.” And three sessions later, the person starts to think, “Oh, wait… maybe.” And by the time they leave, it becomes, “Oh, I’m TOTALLY like that.”
Shelby Minor
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Shelby Minor
This part resonates with me in my family. I have some members that can’t seem to accept the version of themselves they present to people.
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There is a continuing decision to be made as to whether to evade pain, or to tolerate it and therefore modify it.
Lori Gottlieb
This is the human condition in a nutshell, isn’t it?
Heather G. Hagen
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Heather G. Hagen
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J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
I think men were put in a different position in our culture in the past. We were expected to be tough when I was a kid. That’s changing for the better now. Being vulnerable is more acceptable and is b…
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The four ultimate concerns are death, isolation, freedom, and meaninglessness.
Lori Gottlieb
This really resonated with me because I firmly believe that we are more the same than we are different. Once you get to know someone deeply, you find that you’re grappling with the same essential questions—they just manifest (very) differently on the surface.
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Dilip Phadke
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Dilip Phadke
‘Meaning of life’ is an empirical construct of religion or culture and hence meaninglessness has acquired negative connotation. Trying to give meaning can be viewed as an effort to stay relevant in ow…
Kianoush Mokhtarpour
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Kianoush Mokhtarpour
Yalom, in Existential Psychology, reaches the same four ultimate concerns. Or maybe this is the conclusion Psychology, not just this or that psychologist, has reached.
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“Everything can be taken from a man but one thing: the last of the human freedoms—to choose one’s attitude in any given set of circumstances.”
Lori Gottlieb
I was always struck by this quote from Viktor Frankl because he was writing about having choices even in the most horrifying of circumstances—the concentration camps in the Holocaust. It’s a reminder that whether it’s an extreme situation or the ordinary day-to-day, so many times we feel trapped by our circumstances. But we always have the freedom of our minds. Once we embrace this freedom, a whole world of possibility opens up. So often we forget that in any given moment, we can choose to either make ourselves feel better or make ourselves feel worse. The choice is ours—what’s more liberating than that?
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J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
This attitude has received some backlash these days. I’ve come across many in the mental health field as seeing this as a way to discount or minimize their pain in an unhelpful way. I suspect they are…
Bhavesh
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Bhavesh
True. It start with full acceptance of our feeling and emotions. Once we embrace them fully, then we can work with them and possibly work to transform them.
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I particularly liked this line from Frankl’s book: “Between stimulus and response there is a space. In that space is our power to choose our response. In our response lies our growth and our freedom.”
J. Moyer
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J. Moyer
I’ve read a version of this phrase elsewhere - that in this space something new and wonderful can happen.
Irene
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Irene
... In our response lies our GROWTH... so true. So much can be discussed in just that
Chineen
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Chineen
Such a great highlight, one that I read over and over again and attempt to apply in my life everyday.
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Wendell—thank you for seeing my neshama, even (and especially) when I couldn’t. It’s an understatement to say that I feel so lucky to have landed in your office when I did.
Lori Gottlieb
My personal favorite take-away from the book comes from the session in which Wendell tells me about the cartoon of the prisoner, shaking the bars, desperately trying to get out. But, he adds, on the right and the left, the bars are open. All the person has to do is walk around those bars—but many of us don’t. It was such a paradigm shift: Why are so many of us acting as our own jailers?
C2015
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C2015
So great Meadow :)
Catka
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Catka
I had a similar experience in my therapy: I felt as if I had been sitting in a room from which I could not see any escape while not noticing that the door was widely open the whole time. I vividly rem…
Daniela
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Daniela
Your way of thanking him is just beautiful. As the word “neshama” is. Is it crazy that I had thought that you & Wendell would end up together???
When you’re writing a book, it takes a long time before you have the privilege of connecting with readers,
Lori Gottlieb
One of the most gratifying outcomes of putting this very vulnerable book out there has been the response from readers who have told me their own stories of seeing themselves in the stories in Maybe You Should Talk To Someone. When I'm writing, I'm not writing for an audience--I'm writing to make sense of the world. But I share the writing to help others makes sense of their worlds too. And that's worth waiting for.
Jan
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Jan
Somehow, I missed your book in Book of the Month offerings, but when I did hear about it later, I ran to the bookstore and purchased it. It was one of my favorites this year, which I mark with a star …
Charla
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Charla
I am enjoying listening to it on Audible, but only when I get myself to the gym. Great motivation to work out!
Alan
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Alan
Thank YOU! I totally enjoyed it and you totally earned my vote.