Seibel: Some folks would also argue that learning to program teaches a way of thinking that's important, like reading and math are different ways of thinking, and both important. Crockford: I used to think so. I had these amazing insights when I started programming: everything became orderly, and I saw structures and things I had never seen before. I thought, “Wow, this is amazing. Everybody should learn how to do this,” because suddenly I was feeling a lot smarter. Except pretty quickly I'd find, talking to other programmers, that somehow they didn't get it. Programmers are capable of
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