So I ended up going to work for Lucid, which was one of the two remaining Lisp-environment developers. The thing that really made me decide to leave was just this feeling that I wasn't accomplishing anything. And I was surrounded by people who weren't programmers. I'm still friends with some of them; they're good folks, but they were linguists. They were much more interested in abstract things than solving problems. I wanted to be doing something that I could point to and say, “Look, I made this neat thing.”
