It really felt—this is my bitter, selfish way of looking at it—like Terry and I built this great thing and were punished for our success by having it handed over to idiots. That was a very unhappy time for me at Netscape. That began the period where I was only there waiting to vest. Seibel: So you lasted there five years? Zawinski: Yeah. A year past vesting, because just before vesting day mozilla.org stared and that was really interesting again, so I stuck around for that.
