Comments on Best Books Ever - page 13

lmaolmaolmao...lol...um wel alot of ppll arent like seriously over twilight..and whomeva isnt dey need a life...cuz dat shit old..get a new topic ppl!

Mallory wrote: "Hey, please do getting mad at all the "Mormons" for voting. Even people who aren't of that religon have said that it's a great book. It is truly life changing.
I'd like to thank the people who don..."

Mallory wrote: "Hey, please do getting mad at all the "Mormons" for voting. Even people who aren't of that religon have said that it's a great book. It is truly life changing.
I'd like to thank the people who don..."


Is there a reason why comments on religous books should be censored be them good or bad?

Not all people share these religious beliefs and some are just as offended by the religous right wing as the religious are offended by our comments.

I dont go around thumping the book of DARWIN or any other scientific book, nor do I bash anyones religious beliefs, but I do find that the religious right wing wants to thump their book all day long and force feed the rest of the world their beliefs.

huh? okai im gettin ignored here..so bye

Emily wrote: "I'm annoyed with Twilight too. You can like it all you want, but if you think it's "The Best Book Ever" then I just can't respect you. And just for the record, I have read it. I have nothing wrong ..."

agreed

This is not a real list. I like the BBC top 100 books list much better!

no Kirsten -- say it ain't sooooo =(

wat?

Raheida wrote: "wat?"

Raheida ! Welcome back. I did not mean to ignore you. I just didn't know what to say. Still don't, but it's good to hear from you. --Thom D.

I can't believe people are voting for the Twilight books. At best they are some middle-aged woman's adolescent wet dreams. It's sad how many girls are now calling themselves "Bella" and the recent explosion of Vampire-mania. They're not even well written books!

the list is not that bad i agree with them almost all the way there are some books that shouldn't have been on it.

Jazmine wrote: "Twilight is the best book I've read in my entire life! It is awemazing! I love the whole saga and Edward Cullen!"

i totally agree with you

Chelsea wrote: "I can't believe people are voting for the Twilight books. At best they are some middle-aged woman's adolescent wet dreams. It's sad how many girls are now calling themselves "Bella" and the recent ..."

Really ? You mean people naming baby girls "Bella" ? ...! .....or just young women adopting the name ? In any case, I am not so much appalled as puzzled: given that there are over two THOUSAND YA vampire novels, why should the Twilight series win hands down in popularity ? Those who claim, like our friend Zipporah (who follows you in this thread) that she and Jasmine agree, etc. "BEST BOOK I'VE READ IN MY ENTIRE LIFE!", an opinion shared by as many as a million-----PLEASE, What is it about this book you find so appealing ?

lol..thnx atleast sum1 tlks to me here

Raheida wrote: "lol..thnx atleast sum1 tlks to me here"

Dear Raheida, I am an old dinosaur and have difficulty with your cyber-speak, so bear with me. What are your favorite books ? I really would like to know. Sincerely, Thom Dunn, LOL back at ya !

I can't believe that the Twilight series is even being put up against such works as Jane Austen's pride and prejudice and Moby Dick, Stephenie Meyer got the idea for the book in a dream! Her ghastly excuses for literature are an insult to the authors who have been praised for decades, even centuries.

lol..haha..wel i like vamie books and romance wbu?

Sara: Coleridge wrote Kubla Khan in a dream, and not just any dream, but an opium-inspired one. I'm also relatively sure Mary Shelley claimed Frankenstein was inspired by a dream-vision too, not to mention that the tensions between dream and reality are a hugely important part of Keats's poetry. It's less that she got the idea in a dream, and more that she isn't a very good writer.

an interesting list--- it reminds me of the truth or dare games we played in jr-high. I'd love to see a list of each member's top 5 all time reads. How come no non-fiction? philosophy? history? Is that just not literature?

Group decisions tend to generate the lowest common denominator in terms of value, particularly in a tremendously fascist "culture", like the U.S. thumbs down on the above list. Popular things in the U.S. are usually toxic things intellectually, spiritually and psychologically.

We don't need any more stinking love stories about dumbfuckistani (U.S. or Euro) human beings. We need love stories about humans falling in love with nature and saving all our asses. DOY

Larry wrote: "If this list is any indicator, it appears that a lot of people on Goodreads don't read very serious literature. Plus, the Book of Mormon, come on, seriously, you might as well put Dianetics up the..."

Exactly. I think the argument surrounding these kinds of lists relate to what we think of as "literature" and what we categorize as religious texts. What is a "Book" here? It's perfectly valid for your favorite book to be the Bible (or any derivative thereof), and we can't argue for people's taste (Twilight), but what's really interests me is that the majority of the reading public is drawn to what people think is "true" appealing to their spiritual lives (Ayn Rand, The Secret) and not literature, novels, or non-fiction--few have there favorite bestest of all time book as, say, Crime and Punishment, or something by Zizek. or The Little Prince.

That's just the nature of the reading public, throughout history. (Disclaimer: Yes, i've read parts of the Book of Mormon, all of Twilight saga etc. as well).

Thom wrote: "Chelsea wrote: "I can't believe people are voting for the Twilight books. At best they are some middle-aged woman's adolescent wet dreams. It's sad how many girls are now calling themselves "Bella"..."

Its appealing because its got danger action and a little romance but i don't care about the romance its just it makes me a lil emotional in a sad way however i used to think twilight was trash but now i really really like it

i mean vampire books.buh wel oki newayz im outz bye..im jus gettin ignored here..watz da point to tlk? i mean srsly

i keep my heart on holy quran, it really amazing me!

ur a muslim? :O wow

And where the hell is richard powers book on this list of no value? the best novel of the last decade ...

WOW..RLLY?

to raheida:

yes, i am :)

WOW...YOU GUYS DONT LIKE THIS LIST AT ALL...DO YOU?
LOL

damn didnt tink u wer..

twilight is one of the best books that i've ever read. i think edward is super hot

Mellissa wrote: "twilight is one of the best books that i've ever read. i think edward is super hot"

ugh here we go again with edward! edward and bella knew nothing about each other, except that edward was a vampire, and that they think that they are both hot. blah blah blah. stephenie myers writes about two lovesick puppies, who just see their looks. i bet that stephenie is like that 2. i bet she would marry a guy because he is hot, then find out he worshippes french fries. im sorry, but i am all for Jacob. Bella and Jacob actually know alot about each other, but Bella is too dumb to realize that the only reason she is going out with edward is that she thinks he is hot.
and the twilight books arent even that good (the third is an exception, it rox)
Twilight should not be on this list.

How can you be annoyed with twilight?and thank you very very muchJazmine nobody at my school besides one person gets why i like twilight, the saga, and of course EDWARD CULLEN

IDK, the writing is not that great, and it just kills me that bella chose edward! that pretty much ruined it for me! all they do is say ooh ima vampire, and do u chose me, and i dont care if u chose jacob i will do whatever u want, and then bella says ooh edward you are so hot, i love you, i would never go out with jacob. ugh! its so annoying!
the only reasoln i liked Eclipse alot is because there is lots more violence, more werewolves, and more Jacob.
Jacob is the more educated choice- they know alot about each other.
Relatioships build on frienship (jacob) and not obbsession (edward)

o and thats wierd because everybody at my school is obsessed with twilight.

Marla wrote: "this is the second list--worst books was the first--and i'm done. this is madness. i mean, how many mormons congregated to vote the book of mormon as a top 100 book? really?"

Maria - quite biased if I do say. I am LDS and "The Book of Mormon" is in my Top 5, but it's absurd for you to say that "...how many mormons congregated to vote the book of mormon as a top 100 book..." Maybe, just maybe, a lot of Mormons use the site. Take a chill pill and calm down, it's not missionary work, it's just a fun list to see what everyone likes as their Top 5.

Larry wrote: "If this list is any indicator, it appears that a lot of people on Goodreads don't read very serious literature. Plus, the Book of Mormon, come on, seriously, you might as well put Dianetics up the..."

I fully agree. If you haven't read "The Book of Mormon" how can you rationalize such an abrupt dismissal. And I agree, "Twilight" was horrible.

Elizabeth wrote: "If you're groaning or confused about The Book of Mormon being at #1, I ask - have you ever read it? It's a fair question... I do agree w/the Twilight comment though - UGH. But hellooo, Farenheit ..."

Nicely said.

Did I miss "The Screwtape Letters" and the "Heart of Darkness"...?

Voting is one of the worst ways of arriving at anything definitive in such a 'contest.'

I am here suggesting there there exists an amusing, and infinitely more interesting methodology at arriving at a list of best books than a) voting from an inanely long list that automatically biases the voting to the book near the top; or b) blogging badly spelled 'ugghhs.'

Use Six Sigma type analysis on the Goodreads community and their personal lists, commentary and discussion group activities.

How? Presumably the voters are voting for books they've read. (No one has actually voted for a book that they think deserves to be top dog but which they did not/could not finish reading?) To begin the analysis use the Goodreads' 'books read' list. For example: how many people list a particular book? (Use some smarts to conflate different editions.) How many stars? How many multiple reads? How many own the book? How often has a book received commentary, both good and bad? A Six Sigma analysis can incorporate even things like the number of editions there have been, etc.

This would not eliminate the list from being a popularity contest, but it would very honestly reflect what the Goodreads readers find to be excellent – or at least entertainingly – readable verbiage. It might even give us the opportunity to see ourselves without any sort of self deception or illusion as to what our reading habits truly are, and what that might say about the society as a whole - maybe or maybe not.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see if Twilight or the Book of Mormon make it onto that list, or where TKAMB would sit? As it is, the existing list is meaningless. And even more amusing than that, a little additional Six Sigma might be able to address whether or not TKAMB is near the top because it is a school reader that everyone in English speaking North America is likely to have read when very young, when its power would have had a huge impact on the psyche. And it might even be able to tell if Goodreads is inordinately populated with Mormons

Just a thought.

And no, I didn't vote for anything on this list - couldn't without the I Ching, Psychological Types, or Chuang-Tzu's Wandering on the Way being absent. And don't you think it odd that the Bible isn't listed? (Or at least I didn't see it before the 10th page of this list, when I gave up on its silliness.)

I'm okay with number 3, but Twilight? in top five? in what universe Twilight can outnumber 'The Catcher...' or '1984'? You must be kidding!

IkraAmesta wrote: "I'm okay with number 3, but Twilight? in top five? in what universe Twilight can outnumber 'The Catcher...' or '1984'? You must be kidding!
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i agree with the twilight thing.

I Am a definite Twilight HATER i cant stand it Twilight is terrible, i saw the movie and it is horrid. give it up you stupid twilight lovers

Marla wrote: "this is the second list--worst books was the first--and i'm done. this is madness. i mean, how many mormons congregated to vote the book of mormon as a top 100 book? really?"

Sorry...have we offended you with our Mormon-ness? *grin* Seriously, though...personally, I didn't vote it just b/c I'm Mormon; I did it because it IS a good book! There's not some plot among us to vote for it--I didn't say to all my LDS friends, "Hey, everyone! Let's all go to GoodReads and vote for the Book of Mormon as one of the best books!" I'm new to this site, and I saw it up there, and...it's a good book.

Bruce wrote: "I'm not going to argue with the Book of Mormon--either all religious texts are valid for a list like this, in which case it's merely interesting, or all religious texts should be off the list, in w..."

Leslie wrote: "Twilight is number 4? Give me a friggin break people!!! Entertaining? Slightly. A classic piece of literature? Absolutely not! "


I agree, but at the same time I don't...as far as "classic literature," like Shakespeare, etc.--no. But a good book? Yes. Worth reading? Yes. Fun? Yes. So why not? The title of the list is "Best Books Ever"--not "Classic Literature" (granted, there's not a HUGEHUGEHUGE amount of difference, but there is some...

i heard Robert Patterson(edward cullen) smokes. is that true?

Twilight should deffinatly not be on this list.

I think it is interesting how many Dr. Suss books there ae though... American pasttime I guess.

Bruce wrote: "I'm not going to argue with the Book of Mormon--either all religious texts are valid for a list like this, in which case it's merely interesting, or all religious texts should be off the list, in w..."

I couldn't agree more. I read Twilight and it has to be one of the most shallow, poorly thought out pieces of crap ever created. Anyone who says it's good is just referring to the emotional effect of the book (it can make you get goosebumps sometimes). But that is NOT what makes a book good. AT ALL. "Pop garbage with no depth"--I couldn't have said it better myself.

Unarguably, Twilight is popular. But is it the 'BEST' book of all time? I think not. In fact, I think it's pretty hard to determine the best book of all time. But 'To Kill a Mockingbird' seems just about right.

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