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Kalliope wrote: "AlbertineLibertine"
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Kalliope wrote: Perfect article now... But I may leave it for later.. I don't know yet what kind of reading I want to do of Dante.Thank you... another perfect find.
Wonderful! So glad you liked it. I tell you my internet is primed to deliver. I also found another link that has some audio which I will check out later.
I came across this essay which kind of explains why it makes sense to go from reading Proust's Recherche to Dante's Divine Comedy as it compares the two. Of course there are spoilers to the Dante read if one hasn't read any of it before), but if that doesn't bother you:http://udspace.udel.edu/bitstream/han...
For all you teachers out there:Funny stuff:38 Test Answers That Are 100% Wrong But Totally Genius At The Same Time
http://distractify.com/fun/fails/test...
Marcus wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "I saw Martin, Kate and Phillida signed up for the new group. Marcus, Fionnuala, Elizabeth, Eugene, Book Portrait, Manny? Ce Ce,Karen, Elaine, Patricia? It's only fun w..."Marcus, I just figured out that I can send you an invite, and have done so. Check your messages.
Marcelita wrote: For those of us not reading in Italian or Spanish, is there a translation we could agree on?https://www.goodreads.com/topic/show/...
That's a very good question Marcelita. I too am going to wait until there is a general consensus on what they are going to read. There is no rush because I have decided to buy from an independent bookseller right up the road. There is an online edition that is free, but I much rather a book in my hands for long periods of reading. You may be able to download to your kindle the Hollander edition.
http://etcweb.princeton.edu/dante/pdp/
I saw Martin, Kate and Phillida signed up for the new group. Marcus, Fionnuala, Elizabeth, Eugene, Book Portrait, Manny? Ce Ce,Karen, Elaine, Patricia? It's only fun when we read together! Silent room dwellers, do join us! And Jocelyne too!
Kalliope wrote: I agree, Reem really has a knack for finding good articles... she should put them together...
There is a theory now exposed for why the Google gods have always been good to me. All these hours of rabid clicking have yielded results!
delanceyplace.com -- the same internet search yields two different results -- 12/18/13 http://delanceyplace.com/index.php
For those of you who don't visit the lounge, you might like to drop by to see the invite to the new Divine Comedy and Decameron read for 2014. We would like to see you join the new group!
As some of you may know Proustitute and Kris have started a new group read of Dante's Divine Comedy and Boccaccio's Decameron.He asked me to post an invite to the Year of Reading Proust members to join this new group.
Proustitute: "Glad to see some Proust 2013 members making their way here!
Reem, care to post in the lounge there about this group? I would, but I'm not on a computer and it's too clumsy. If not, I'll do it when I'm next at one, no problem! I just know you're active there, is all.
This group is for those interested in reading either or both Dante's Divine Comedy or Boccaccio's Decameron in 2014. Each read will be non-concurrent to allow members to choose which they'd like to read along with the group (or both!) and also allow plenty of time for other 2014 reads—both related to Dante and Boccaccio as auxiliary reads (e.g. The Heptameron) or otherwise."
Kalliope, Marcelita, Aloha, Aubrey, Traveller, Richard, Scribble and I are already there. It would be so much fun if you would join us for Divine Comedy and Decameron 2014!! Hoping to see you sign up!
https://www.goodreads.com/group/show/...
Marcelita wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "I came across this posted by our humble host:http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/the-lyric-f......"
So glad you enjoyed it!
I came across this posted by our humble host:http://www.rte.ie/lyricfm/the-lyric-f...
Definitely worth listening to!!!
Marcus wrote:"I think Proust mostly speaks to people who have looked very hard into their own mirrors." YES. And, nearing the end, I have a feeling of having scratched the surface of the mirror that is ISOLT.Well said Marcus!
Marcus wrote: "If this book is a novel, then the Narrator's thoughts on art, suffering, truth, aesthetics etc are not MP speaking. I found it more mysterious when reading this week to NOT think I was reading MP s..."I think Marcus that for the most part, we have all been reading ISOLT as Proust's memoir even though we clearly are not meant to be doing so, but because so much material is drawn on actuality in his life, so auto-biographical that it is hard not to do so. Yes, Time Regained does read like the preface to the novel, but how much nicer to see the book arranged like this, that he goes from being the young child to the older man reflecting on the meaning of life. Proust is one of those very rare people who has an amazing amount of self-knowledge, and when we read of the narrator, we read of a self that has been studied so deeply, that it arises from being an inner self, to being the subject of this book. It isn't of Proust as people know him, but Proust as he knows himself, and we readers recognize ourselves in him, having ourselves done similar soul searching.
I think Proust mostly speaks to people who have looked very hard into their own mirrors.
Elizabeth wrote: "Re the dressed-up attendees. When I wanted to become a teacher, despite having a degree in English Literature, I had a year's worth of Ed. courses to take. I went to a historical black university ..."To see and be seen. Who is watching whom?The Zoo story of the Guermantes Way.
http://aeon.co/film/whos-watching-who...
Ce Ce wrote: "ReemK10 (Paper Pills) wrote: "I did not like this: One thing I noted about the Proust enthusiasts, both from having visited the Morgan exhibition and attending the Columbia conference, was that eve..."LOL Ce Ce, you got that right. Here I was feeling downright dowdy in my pink flannel jammies, but hey there is a paisley pattern. LOL ;) Proust would approve of the pink color!!!
Phillida wrote: "I'm just making a giant step and posting my first link, which I got to from the Arts & Letters Daily. A little bit smart-mouthed, a little bit illuminating, and very entertaining:http://www.thesma..."
Well done Phillida. I liked this:
Proust is, to use a much-used metaphor, like a rich dessert that you savor, having had your palate properly prepared by an excellent sorbet (say, Virginia Woolf) or a more complex first course of rognons (J.K. Huysmans or Walter Pater).
I did not like this: One thing I noted about the Proust enthusiasts, both from having visited the Morgan exhibition and attending the Columbia conference, was that everyone was extremely well-dressed. I saw a few Louboutin scarlet soles and well-tailored pencil skirts, some tasteful but indubitably expensive gold jewelry, a lot of well-tied scarves, and cashmere sweater vests on the men, not to mention jackets thrown over shoulders with incomparable insouciance. Nothing ostentatious, mind you, but there was money and time lavished on the clothes and accessories. It was a sumptuous display — a sort of visual counterpart to reading Proust.
Yes, very entertaining.
I had to google this: The Embarkation for Cythera ("L'Embarquement pour Cythère") is a painting by the French painter Jean-Antoine Watteau. It is also known as "Voyage to Cythera" and "Pilgrimage on the Isle of Cythera". Watteau submitted this work to the Royal Academy of Painting and Sculpture as his reception piece in 1717. The painting is now in the Louvre in Paris. A second variant version of the composition, Pilgrimage to Cythera, painted by Watteau sometime between 1718 and 1721,[citation needed] is in the Charlottenburg Palace, Berlin.[image error]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:L%2...
The Embarkation for Cythera (Louvre version): Many commentators note that it depicts a departure from the island of Cythera, the birthplace of Venus, thus symbolizing the brevity of love.
Pilgrimage to Cythera is an embellished repetition of his painting of 1717, and exemplifies the frivolity and sensuousness of Rococo painting. (1721, Berlin)With the same speed the amorous suggestions which they have instilled into us are dissipated, and sometimes, when the loving nocturnal visitant has vanished from our sight and reappeared in her familiar shape of an ugly woman, there vanishes with her something more precious, a whole ravishing landscape of feelings of tenderness, of voluptuous pleasure, of vaguely blurred regrets, a whole embarkation for the Cythera of passion, of which we should like to note, for our waking state, the subtle and deliciously lifelike gradations of tone, but which fades away like a discoloured canvas that can no longer be restored. (MKE 323)
Fionnuala wrote: My puzzlement concerns one of the key elements in the Recherche, and presumably present from the beginning, the notion of art created through suffering. Had he already suffered or did he just know that he was destined to suffer and transform that suffering into art? And furthermore, was the way he chose to live out his final years, i.e., writing from his bed and hardly ever going out, him fulfilling the planned narrative curve of the book or the planned book obliging him to live in this way.
Please don't answer all at once...
Shameless plug, but I did make a tumblr page on the theme of suffering/art as mentioned by Proust.
http://aportraitofawomanreading.tumbl...
