ReemK10 (Paper Pills)’s Comments (group member since Dec 26, 2012)

ReemK10 (Paper Pills)’s comments from the The Year of Reading Proust group.

Marcelita wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "@Kristina @Marcelita, I looked to see if I could find Marcel Proust's profile and found this:

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums......"

What are you Marcelita? And Nick, I can see you as an ISTJ. I wonder if there are any extroverts in this group.

@Aloha, the whole Lance Armstrong story is a tragedy. Here was a man who survived testicular cancer that had spread in his body yet went on to win what was it 7 Tour de France titles, and we bought his story because we wanted to buy into the dream and to believe in this man who beat incredible odds and also created hope for so many cancer patients with the charity that he formed. I think we began to see the crack in this facade when he dumped Sheryl Crow when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. I think he couldn't face her because he couldn't face himself knowing how he was living his life as a fraud. Wasn't he also the one that started the wear a silicone wristband to show your support for whatever charity?

Ian wrote: "If someone could add a metal chain, we could make a necklace out of one of these:

"

The men in the group can grow a moustache like Proust and wear an overcoat, and the women a pink silk dress and pearls. lol

Or a pink hawthorn in the lapel.

Proustitute wrote: "Why don't we just get Jason to make a stamp for our foreheads?

But in all honesty, ReemK: what is that? a ring or a bracelet or something else?"

You've never seen one of these before? It's a Livestrong wristband. Buying a band is a donation to a cancer charity that Lance Armstrong started.They cost a dollar. The bands are everywhere. A stamp for the forehead works just as well....

Ian wrote: "We need a badge to identify us!"

I have a very simple idea that almost everyone can do. Find http://www.flickr.com/photos/altera/5...

and add the words IN SEARCH OF LOST TIME in black ink.

What do you think?

@Kristina @Marcelita, I looked to see if I could find Marcel Proust's profile and found this:

http://www.typologycentral.com/forums... that has Marcel Proust as an INFP like me. About 10 years ago, I was an INFJ but personalities do change, and I apparently crossed over into INFP territory. I took the test 3 more times and tested INFP each time.
Check out this list.

More on Proust as an idealist: http://psyed.org/r/pers/pt/idealist.html

Ian wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "Paris - Carnavalet Museum - Marcel Proust's bedroom http://www.flickr.com/photos/15434282..."

Thanks, Reem

My family and I holidayed in Paris for two we..."

wow, some great photos! Thanks for sharing.

Marcelita wrote:
Definitely P perceiving... ."



Same here :)INFP

Kristina wrote:" And how he does this somehow, as Proustitute said, while refraining from judgement and, by implication, imploring us to do the same."

Sounds Jungian to me, are you J judging or P perceiving?

Proustitute wrote: "ReemK: I think it's tempting to read Proust fast because the rhythm of his sentences grip you and lull you along. It's natural, I think, and happens to all of us.

Everyone reads differently, of c..."

Thanks Proustitute. I'll just let it speak to me, and follow the melody of the words.

Kalliope wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "Marcelita wrote: "Marcelita wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "On the violet color of the curtains (l’hostilité des rideaux violets): violet became a very fashionable color in t..."

And not to forget the lady in the pink silk dress and pearls, and " that little pink cloud too, has it not the tint of some flower, a sweet william or hydrangea?"(LD 133)

Rosemary wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "http://www.flickr.com/photos/34977978...

They speak for themselves."

I visualise the pink hawthorn as more delicate than that - around here (so..."

Rosemary,you got me there. I actually thought Proust meant for them to look like this:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/reddrago...
but that didn't do anything for me. To me they were magical, as:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34977978...

Can a reader take a little creative license in interpretation? And look how gorgeous they look here:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/10909491...

I beleive come Spring, I'm going to plant some pink hawthornes in my garden to serve as remembrance of 2013: the year of reading Proust.

Kalliope wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "Marcelita wrote: "Marcelita wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "On the violet color of the curtains (l’hostilité des rideaux violets): violet became a very fashionable color in t..."

I look forward to your post.:)
Kalliope, I have a question for you as you're an expert on Proust. I read somewhere that we weren't to slowly savor Proust, taking our time strolling through his sentences, but that we were to read fast for plot inorder to understand what Proust was trying to say.This is at odds with the way I read, do advise on how to read Proust.

Marcelita wrote: "Marcelita wrote: "Kalliope wrote: "On the violet color of the curtains (l’hostilité des rideaux violets): violet became a very fashionable color in the second half of the nineteenth Century, when i..."

I doubt that. It's just Martha trying to market to literary lovers or to the reader trying to make the witty and very outlandish pseudo statement that they have actually read Proust. Well, perhaps they read the Proust Questionnaire at the end of the Vanity Fair magazine. lol I would venture to say that Proust's favorite color had to be pink, pink, pink!

Just checked the answers Joshua posted: Proust's answer

"My favourite colour.
The beauty is not in the colours, but in their harmony."

Okay fair enough, but with a strong preference for pink.

Nick wrote: "I like that Thurman quote. I had not seen it before. Thanks Reem! Reminded me a bit of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudade for which English doesn't quite have a word for :)"

Did you notice that when the woman was looking at the photo yearning for whomever/whatever was in the photo, she had a black scarf/veil draped around her shoulders? Did you also notice that right by her side was a book with a white scarf over it? Very telling.

Nick wrote: "I like that Thurman quote. I had not seen it before. Thanks Reem! Reminded me a bit of: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saudade for which English doesn't quite have a word for :)"

Thanks Nick for introducing me to the word saudade. I've never come across it before. Isn't it really like being in a state of melancholy? Or is it nostalgia without the pain of a broken heart? I love that Brazil has an official day to celebrate Saudade. January 30th, I'm going to have to remember that. Cheers :)

Aloha, wouldn't nostalgia for something you've never had before be a sense of adventure in that you want to go out and find what you yearn for?

"Every dreamer knows that it is entirely possible to be homesick for a place you've never been to, perhaps more homesick than for familiar ground."
~ Judith Thurman

Isn't this true of our craving to walk the Meseglise- la -Vineuse way and the Guermantes way?

Sorry I didn't reaize that there is a spoiler in this and already an auxiliary thread. @P should I delete this?
@Margaret and Jeremy "The Transverse Way"

"A network of transversals, of crisscrossing diagonal paths, interconnected the two "ways" that structure the book, the Guermantes way and the Meseglise way.
www.ashgate.com/pdf/SamplePages/Deleu...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/34977978...

They speak for themselves.

Eugene wrote: "The forbidden flower: Gilberte along the Méségise way,

"I looked at her, at first with the sort of gaze that is not merely the messenger of the eyes, but a window at which all the senses lean out,..."

I read this and thought I'm lagging behind, I need to catch up with Eugene to read this part that he writes about, so I pick up my book and get sidelined by this gem:

"I have friends wherever there are companies of trees, wounded but not vanquished, which huddle together with touching obstinancy to implore an inclement and pitiless sky." LD 134 Just perfect.I have those same friends.

I also have visions of people in our group reading, and every now and then one of us will read a line that will bring about a fainting spell. Good reading, enjoy!

Phillida wrote: "Fionnuala wrote: "It is interesting that in Ulysses, Joyce also made one of his two main characters Jewish. He and Proust were writing around the same time."

Yes, it is interesting. But WHY is Sw..."

Could Swann be a Jew because Proust wants to make some sort of social statement about how France views Salon Jews in comparison with other Jews considered more ghetto during his time?

Marcelita wrote: "ReemK10 (Got Proust?) wrote: "Since some of you have snuck in and already gotten started, I'm going to join you because I'm still giddy from reading Proust in this new section and just have to shar..."

Lol, yes there's no going back, and a lot to look forward to with an entire year of reading Proust!I always have conflicting sentiments however because I believe the translator is also largely responsible for our reading pleasure when we read in translation.

@P " narratives we have written inside of us, those that make us who we are."

I really like this sentence.This makes for a thought-provoking topic. There are narratives we tell ourselves, narratives that we tell others about ourselves, narratives that we are still to realize about ourselves, and we go through a thousand drafts as we write and rewrite our own narrative(s).