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What's pathetic is your hard on for trashing him. It's unbelievable you'd spend so much time and effort into throwing a temper tantrum over not being able to read a book because it's yet unreleased. It's really pathetic.

i see, so what you're saying is that you have no actual way to argue with me and would rather just insult me?

funny, i think that's called being a hypocrite lmao keep trying justin

Where did you get the misguided notion that he finished writing the trilogy 8 years ago? Not remotely true. Have you ever written anything aside from school papers? If not, give it a try and get back to us when you've got a well plotted story arc, with three-dimensional characters and fully developed world building.

Or, to paraphrase the excellent Neil Gaiman blog linked in this thread: Patrick Rothfuss is not your bitch.

Aislinn i literally got that misguided notion that he finished writing the trilogy y years ago from his official blog in which he posted 8 years ago that all three books were finished and he was ready to release them in yearly intervals

"First-time novelist Patrick Rothfuss offers self-aware heroic fantasy in The Name of the Wind, the first volume in a trilogy (which is already completely written) about the life and legend of Kvothe, master magician, musician, thief, assassin and hero."

"Do you know what the publishing schedule will be?

The next two books will come out in one-year intervals. I'm able to do this because when I started writing, I had no idea how long a book was. I just kept blazing a trail until I came to the end of Kvothe's story. When I finally finished, I looked back and realized I had a trilogy's worth of material. "

taken from his official blog motherfucker - http://www.patrickrothfuss.com/conten...

Fuck you Aislinn try actually researching this so called information you talk of, if you tried; perhaps you'd realize that you are 100% wrong. You are wrong. Did you know that? that you are wrong? because if you didn't, you now do in fact realize that you are wrong. You are 100% wrong, i cannot emphasize this any more than i am currently trying to. You tell me that i'm wrong, that i'm misguided, you compare me to a high schooler, you condescendingly imply that i need to have written a novel to actually criticize a book or its author (which is fucking stupid btw) and your first sentence was 100% wrong.

I don't know what more to say, like what the fuck, what did you expect? did you think i would not prove my point with valid information? tell me Aislinn, what the fuck are you on?

i have followed Rothfuss and read his blog, and if you'd read more recently entries, you'd see the posts about the extensive changes made with the editing process.
It's possible that early post was a bit of naivete on his part regarding editing, but it doesn't change the fact that the book is not done - you can see that in his own review for it here. Given the fact that his words here are seven years more recent than the ones you quote, I'm going to believe what he's telling us now. If you read his blogs, you should be able to get the measure of the man, and con artist isn't remotely in that picture.

So what you're saying is that Patrick Rothfuss definitely lied about the release dates and completion of the books but it doesn't matter because he told us that he basically lied?

okay buddy

My favorite part about your post is that it looks semi long but it's really just you repeating the exact same thing over and over; "how do you feel that you have the rights to something you paid for"

Answered this before a thousands times so i'll give you the short answer. I paid for a promise, the promise was broken.

Other than that you literally take your excuses for him and shove them up your ass :) If he wanted to end the series in a fashion that would please the fans he would release them on time like he said.

Let's say he is editing them because he wants to change them, i'll humour you. That means he didn't edit the first novel since it came out on time, now i don't know about you but know for a fact the majority of fans enjoyed the first novel more than the second, if the second was 4 years late because he was changing it and that change made the book a giant pile of "let's do nothing for 1000 pages". How in the world does that help your case, that he's some brilliant author.

Funny how he has so much time for conventions and interviews etc instead of "Getting in the zone" like you say, he's pathetic as an author. A genuine author wouldn't make promises he couldn't keep before debuting, a real author takes his job seriously and works 5 days a week because that's his job.

My main constant point isn't "he lied" by the way, my main point is that the author is a scam artist, i've given the proof, people have yet to show me otherwise, instead resort to stupid posts that call me out for telling the truth.

I like that you keep harping on about how he's editing his books or whatever, even though you conceded that he did complete the books before they began and then you go on and on about an author not being content with his work or some shit. Dude, if he wasn't content with his work he wouldn't have scheduled release dates before they came out. That's like common sense, it's so common in fact i worry for you mental capacity.

By the way, i don't know where you're looking but i haven't been told to go pick up another series in a long time. I don't know where you're seeing this. Just so you know, the last time i read these books was about a year ago, i've read many different series since then, funny how none of those authors pissed me off quite as much as Pat, even funnier, nobody seems to defend their authors or make so many excuses for their authors quite like Pat's audience.

lmao "patience can take you a long way" i've been waiting for the third book 5 years past it's initial due date, i've seen it pushed back every year, i've seen this author release $30 novella's that would take a real author a month to complete, a novella that would do better in a short story competition, don't lecture me on patience, this is pathetic.

You people are all the same, using the same old excuses year after year, each one of you thinks it's such an original comment to; "OH I BET HE'S JUST EDITING IT A LITTLE BIT DON'T WORRY IT'LL BE OUT NEXT YEAR FOR SURE I TRUST PAT AND IT OFFENDS ME THAT YOU DON'T TRUST ME EITHER". It's quite pathetic to be honest.

How about get in the boat of who the fuck cares when he releases it? I want it sooner, but assuming I am still able to read books when it finally arrives I could care less. I will get it when it gets here. This isn't even close to the longest I have waited for a book. The fact that you are so upset that he "lied" is amusing.

Wheel of time was originally 6 novels, then 12 I believe, and ended on 14. I was honestly just thankful it finally finished. Song of Fire and Ice had some ridiculous waits between books as well. I have read some series where the author just drops off the face of the planet for a few years, not responding to emails or their own sites and then they resurface when the book is done with little to no warning (I am looking at you J.V. Jones. I have on occasion emailed authors asking if they were still alive. The responses are usually pretty entertaining.

Be aggravated all you want, all it does is give people interesting things to read when they browse the thread looking for something to do between finding a books to read.

lmao it's hardly about the wait, i don't care if i have to wait 2-4 years between books.

I care more about a scum author completely lying about it.

THANK YOU. I was getting SO irritated at all the extremely ignorant people not understanding the situation, as if he's holed up somewhere just working hard to try and "finish" the book he's "already written".

"My fans are the most important thing... Lemme just go do a quick video game project first... and anything else that makes me money" -Rothfuss.

I feel the need to inform you that happiness is a choice, so let go of your anger dude. It's not getting you anywhere. Except more angry.

Also, based on the quote you posted, you are probably seriously misinterpreting. He did not say he had anything written. He got to the end of Kvothe's story and realized he had a trilogy's worth of material. You are aware that authors plan out their books in detail before writing, right? They don't just fart out words onto a page.

I'm chipper as a chipmunk. Unfortunately, you don't seem to be very bright: " You are aware that authors plan out their books in detail before writing, right? They don't just fart out words onto a page."

Your quote has no relevance to the situation or discussion. If you're not able to grasp the conversation then there's no discussion to be had. Since at this point your ego is going to step in and convince yourself you can't be wrong, let me provide you with some basic logic to chew on: The fact that authors have to plan as you so brilliantly pointed out has no bearing on a situation where an author is making no effort to progress the series. Once he got the money and notoriety from the series' success, he turned his back and has since spent all of his time working on video games and any other project he feels like. Let that sink in, climb a mountain and meditate, do whatever you need to do to make yourself look less retarded.

Haha, wow. Well that part was actually a response to ldcboobs claiming Rothfuss has been lying about having the books done. But...thanks?

Fuck.

Jimmtomm if you care to actually read the fucking quote to begin with you'll clearly see "which is already completely written)" right at the top of the damn page.

Based on this quote anyone with a fucking grasp on the english language can easily see that the books were said to be written.

You clearly even say it in your fucking post "a trilogy's worth of material" that's not a plan for three books, that's material for three books. I.Fucking.E. Enough material to split the story into three books.

I can't get over how simple this is, seriously did you even check out the quote itself?

Obviously you fucking didn't because the page the quote is on says literally, right fucking under the quote:

"Do you know what the publishing schedule will be?

The next two books will come out in one-year intervals. I'm able to do this because when I started writing, I had no idea how long a book was. I just kept blazing a trail until I came to the end of Kvothe's story. When I finally finished, I looked back and realized I had a trilogy's worth of material. "

stop being such a pathetic fanboy, if your author is so great why does he need his fucking fans to make excuses for him instead of telling people he lied.

you are the definition of ignorant.

Anyone want to bet on if this idiot will even bother replying to this lmao it's so pathetic how much these guys struggle to come to terms with how shitty Pat is of an author.

Ok guys, you need to get this figured out. First of all, when your writing, its a lot of work.

Secondly, Rothfuss never lied. He had all of the trilogy writen and then his publishers asked him to add some elements into the books so he did. Denna was not at all in the first draft, nor were a few other characters. So after the first book he had to go through the second and change 10x the amount that he had to in the first one to let all these extra characters fit. So here we are in the third, basically, he has to change about 100x as much as the first book in order for it all to make sense. So let him be, he didn't lie, and he also made other short stories about Kvothe and Bast and some other stuff, he isn't the one completley calling the shots. Don't blame the man for trying to get his work done, even if the slow grueling process takes a while.

The blog post i've been referencing was made less than a year before the release of the name of the wind.

That means he had less than a year to write all that shit into the book, like denna and everything.

If that took him less than a year, how has it taken 5+ years for the others to be completed?

He's not trying to get his work done at all by the way, look at his blogs/facebook, he attempts to do everything BUT write.

nice try dude but just look at the reality of things, he's just a scum author.

Not to mention the fact that he seemed to have a grasp on the timeline of his books before the first even released.

Did I not just explain? The editing process exponentially increases with the original amount you add. Sorry bro, but he's basically needing to re write 80% of his book, dunno if you've ever tried writing anything, but I have. I've had to do something similar with one of my short stories and it took months.

Funny you bring up short story's considering the short story he recently released.

Would an author start working on a 150 page novella short story that apparently took years to write if the original books were not finished?

as much as you don't want to admit it; you're wrong. All the signs point to you being completely wrong.

- Pat writing short stories instead of "finishing"/"editing"/"releasing" his actual novels

- silly amount of blog posts that imply he either completely wrote the books or lied

- more than enough time between books to edit features in or out yet still books pushed back several years for no given reason

Also i know what you're saying, you're saying the more he edits in the first novels, the more he'll have to edit in the later novels. Yet all the information he released about the books before their release date have stayed exactly the same, meaning almost nothing would have been cut or cut in. I mean he left the damn dragon scene in, nobody in existence enjoyed that arc. There is nothing to suggest he had to re-write any of his novels or edit any of his books at all. It's just anecdotal evidence you bring up because it's the only way to discredit what i say without putting blame onto Rothfuss; "oh it's the publisher, it's their fault". Funny that because you think he wouldn't promise a release date for each book unless his publisher's agreed, but apparently they gave him less than a year to edit his first book before a release date lmao

face it dude you're wrong.

Hahahaha, you amuse me foolish one. You really don't expect his publishers to be hounding him to release something? Geez man give it a rest. Nothing will sway those of us who know that this is a long and arduous process. Tell me I'm wrong a hundred time, but that will not make you right. I hope you find peace with yourself before all this is finally over. There is no point in being angry. Life should be filled with joy and happiness. So please, stop wasting your time trying to tear someone else down just because your life is going unfulfilled.

dismal of evidence followed by a lecture

okay buddy you sure do know what's going on :)

Look the undisputable truth of the matter is this. Rothfuss spent his first two books creating more intertwining mysteries than you can count. Everytime you read one you find a new question that needs to be answered. Because of this he is going to have to find a way to cram all of the stuff that he has promised into this third book. I don't really see him being able to do it. I predict that when doors of stone comes out it will be a piece of shit, and I predict that it won't come out until 2017.You also need to take the fact that Rothfuss is a money grubbing attention whore into account. He is probably very aware of the fact that this series will be his first and only succesful one. So he is going to bask in the adoration? admiration? of his peers for as long as he has.
Forgive the spelling mistakes, english is my 3rs language

You can also count on a new series set in the same world to come out afterwards.

I can see a prequel to be honest, another story about some mythical legend because honestly Rothfuss can't write about anything that isn't a mary sue.

agreed Rothfuss is an empty shell. Further more he spends too much time on this world builders bullshit. It has been said many times that the money is funneled through his bank account

Yes, how dare he raise millions of dollars for charity, be a part of his kids' lives, go to conventions to interact with fans, and have some time to himself. Personally, I'm horrified that he's not locked in his room finishing the book on your schedule instead of living his life. For shame!

I think everyone's frustarted because when people ask for an update (a reasonable request) he tells them to go pound sand. Then there's also the fact that every single update he shares has nothing to do with him actively working on the book... Preach patience all you want but at least be able to come to terms and accept the fact that people are frustrated and justly so.

@Twerking to Beethoven, the difference is, we aren't his boss. We don't own him in any way, and he owes us nothing.

If you follow him on FB. He cant Finnish. His head wont fit next to the computer anymore from all the fame!

3 years after idc's post, and still no end in sight - any of you changed your minds yet?

I for one SPECIFICALLY only started reading tKC because of the article idc mentions - that they were all DONE, and the 3rd one would be coming out in about a year. If I had not read these words - from the author himself - I would have waited until book 3 was DONE and PUBLISHED before even starting. No problem. But I took his word, which is a bit of a problem since I now entirely forget most of what happened in the first two books (it has been 6 years, or for me over 500 books ago, and I have better things to do than reread books). Would I have taken him to task if he had taken 2-3 years to get it out instead of 1? Not at all. But 7 years & no end it sight?

As far as what Rothfuss owes us - I think there is a choice there. If he says in 2011 that the third books is actually DONE & will be out soon (as opposed to he is working on it & thinks it will be out soon) - I think he DOES owe us that by 2018, editing or not. DONE means DONE.

Oh my god, he isn't your freaking slave. He doesn't OWE you ANYTHING, would you mind cutting him some slack? Would you rather have a shitty book that came out in a year or an amazing book that takes a while? And I'm sorry that he isn't on your schedule, your highness, it is YOUR PROBLEM that you "have better things to do than to reread books." You obviously can't care all that much if you read through the books once and then are demanding the next book. And if you SPECIFICALLY only started reading tKC because they are all done, then it looks like you don't actually care about the content. He publishes when he publishes, and you can freaking deal with it.

2 years later and still no book. Why do I suspect I will be writing this again 2 years from now? As far as what I am OWED - it is not being lied to by the author about the status of the 3rd book "done, should be out within a year") in 2011.

I specifically started because I thought it would be done before I forgot everything that happened. My memory is much better than average, but after 9 years and maybe 700 books, yeah, I don't remember much. As far as cutting him some slack - would giving him 9 years to complete a book he said was basically done and would be out in a year count? That seems like LOTS of slack to me.

Also - you might want to look up "slave" in the dictionary. I can give you a hint - the definition is not "expressing disappointment in an author on the internet for not upholding his commitments".

14 years ago now.

This is so stupid and moronic. You are never entitled to anyone's work. Their work belongs to them and can be released as they see fit. The entitlement movement is ridiculous. Grow up, learn patience, and read other books while you wait.

This thread hasn't aged well.