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Wow nice answer! So in-depth and you gave answers I didn't even think to ask. You're awesome thanks!
Wow, what a thorough and interesting answer! Thank you
Thanks guys, I hope you're all enjoying your immersion In the Dune universe. I myself started re-reading these books after 10+ years and I'm enjoying every second of it. I'm done with Dune and Dune Messiah, but instead of the Children of Dune I decided to pay homage to House Atreides. All marvelous reading.
This is a great summary. I would agree / add - and this is my personal opinion - that the original cycle becomes more and more esoteric and confusing and looses the SpaceOpera meets Hard SciFi touch of Dune, and I personally think that the Biran Herbert/Anderson books are more towards the popcorn / pulp spectrum (in fact I found them too cheesy and cheap to enjoy, they read like a really bad Hollywood action movie that shows too much violence and sex to keep people interested)
I'll agree with both points. But "esoteric" is not always a negative thing (instead it can sometimes be percepted as "deep"). As for "confusing", it certainly is but usually towards the end of each book most things become clear and we feel we've understood more or less why it's all happened.
On the other hand the Brian Herbert/Anderson novels grow cheesier by the book (if not by the... page), that's why I've noted only the first few tomes are worth reading. Perhaps 3 to 6 of them. 7-8 at most. The rest are clearly not for hardcore Dune fans.
I just started the first one, the original Dune. As a new movie is on the way, I thought I'd rather read the book before watching the movie, but I guess I don't really want to read everything else (I will decide when I finish the book).
Thank you for the detail answer. I was looking into reading Dune as well.
Thanks a lot for this insight.
Copied this to my bucket list, and will come back to it once I've read the series.
Cheers!
I dropped it! It's really boring, nothing happen for 100 pages, then other 100 pages and nothing still happens, and when something happens, it's f***ing magic tricks! I don't understand how the Atreides are still alive, they a bunch of idiots; the Harkonens would have defeated before the novel started if the author was not so in love with his heroes.
I meant to say, thank you Nasos Delveroudi! That was an epic answer, thanks! I will add those to my list and start reading them. I liked Dune very much, and in my opinion, it is the best science fiction novel I have read so far. If the third book is even better, I cant wait to get started.
God Emperor chapter is hated by the impatient, but lauded by the illuminable. The work of all works!!
This is the single best response to a question I've ever seen on Goodreads. Valuable info, thank you!
Beautifully detailed! And yes, the original a rock solid stand alone. Having just read House Atreides, I'm not sure I want to go on. It was, as you said more politely, formulaistic (?) while Frank's writing was richly layered.
This is such a helpful response. Thank you!!!!
Thank you for this answer. The insight of a fan wanting others to join in the journey is always appreciated.
Thank you for this informational and well-structured answer! have just finished the DUNE movie and doing my research whether I should go into this (deep) book world. am going to start the first book and see! Thanks again. Such a good soul!
@Katy Chan Thanks a lot for your kind comment. I haven't watched the movie yet (hopefully I'll do that next weekend) but I'm hearing positive feedback which is absolutely fantastic. I also hear that the movie only covers part of the first book and not all of it. In any case it should provide sufficient motivation for many people to get to read the book(s) and experience Frank Herbert's fantastic universe. 55+ years later his work is still relevant and grows in popularity. That's not common in sci-fi and is a testament to Dune's unparalleled depth.
Great answer, Nasos!
I read a couple of the books in Frank's original sequence as a kid, and recently decided to go back and finally read the series through in full. I was aware his son had taken over at some point, and that there's now a massive extended universe, so figured I had a ton of research ahead of me to pick out the main stream(s) -- not so, after your comprehensive breakdown! Thanks for posting.
ND, I have to admit I was planning on finishing on the first book, but you push a very convincing sales pitch for the others. Thank you!
@kyosti Glad I could be of help, I hope you enjoy the rest of the Dune books as much as you did your first one.
I read the first book, but the rest I did not like. The new movies by Denis Villeneuve are fabulous, wow
"@Ricardo Why does this only have 9 likes? This summarized everything I needed to know perfectly. I really want to read these books now." Thanks for the feedback. Actually this used to have hundreds of likes (which, to be honest, I never expected while writing my initial comment) but I've no idea why they were deleted. In other news I'm now reading Hunters of Dune, almost 18 full years after I bought it. Seriously, it's by far the worst of all Brian H./Anderson books I've read. How they managed to create such a boring and shallow book even if they had Frank's notes about Dune 7, I have no idea. I think I'll just go back and read God Emperor of Dune for the umpteenth time.
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Wow, what a thorough and interesting answer! Thank you
Thanks guys, I hope you're all enjoying your immersion In the Dune universe. I myself started re-reading these books after 10+ years and I'm enjoying every second of it. I'm done with Dune and Dune Messiah, but instead of the Children of Dune I decided to pay homage to House Atreides. All marvelous reading.
This is a great summary. I would agree / add - and this is my personal opinion - that the original cycle becomes more and more esoteric and confusing and looses the SpaceOpera meets Hard SciFi touch of Dune, and I personally think that the Biran Herbert/Anderson books are more towards the popcorn / pulp spectrum (in fact I found them too cheesy and cheap to enjoy, they read like a really bad Hollywood action movie that shows too much violence and sex to keep people interested)
I'll agree with both points. But "esoteric" is not always a negative thing (instead it can sometimes be percepted as "deep"). As for "confusing", it certainly is but usually towards the end of each book most things become clear and we feel we've understood more or less why it's all happened.On the other hand the Brian Herbert/Anderson novels grow cheesier by the book (if not by the... page), that's why I've noted only the first few tomes are worth reading. Perhaps 3 to 6 of them. 7-8 at most. The rest are clearly not for hardcore Dune fans.
I just started the first one, the original Dune. As a new movie is on the way, I thought I'd rather read the book before watching the movie, but I guess I don't really want to read everything else (I will decide when I finish the book).
Thank you for the detail answer. I was looking into reading Dune as well.
Thanks a lot for this insight.Copied this to my bucket list, and will come back to it once I've read the series.
Cheers!
I dropped it! It's really boring, nothing happen for 100 pages, then other 100 pages and nothing still happens, and when something happens, it's f***ing magic tricks! I don't understand how the Atreides are still alive, they a bunch of idiots; the Harkonens would have defeated before the novel started if the author was not so in love with his heroes.
I meant to say, thank you Nasos Delveroudi! That was an epic answer, thanks! I will add those to my list and start reading them. I liked Dune very much, and in my opinion, it is the best science fiction novel I have read so far. If the third book is even better, I cant wait to get started.
God Emperor chapter is hated by the impatient, but lauded by the illuminable. The work of all works!!
This is the single best response to a question I've ever seen on Goodreads. Valuable info, thank you!
Beautifully detailed! And yes, the original a rock solid stand alone. Having just read House Atreides, I'm not sure I want to go on. It was, as you said more politely, formulaistic (?) while Frank's writing was richly layered.
This is such a helpful response. Thank you!!!!
Thank you for this answer. The insight of a fan wanting others to join in the journey is always appreciated.
Thank you for this informational and well-structured answer! have just finished the DUNE movie and doing my research whether I should go into this (deep) book world. am going to start the first book and see! Thanks again. Such a good soul!
@Katy Chan Thanks a lot for your kind comment. I haven't watched the movie yet (hopefully I'll do that next weekend) but I'm hearing positive feedback which is absolutely fantastic. I also hear that the movie only covers part of the first book and not all of it. In any case it should provide sufficient motivation for many people to get to read the book(s) and experience Frank Herbert's fantastic universe. 55+ years later his work is still relevant and grows in popularity. That's not common in sci-fi and is a testament to Dune's unparalleled depth.
Great answer, Nasos!I read a couple of the books in Frank's original sequence as a kid, and recently decided to go back and finally read the series through in full. I was aware his son had taken over at some point, and that there's now a massive extended universe, so figured I had a ton of research ahead of me to pick out the main stream(s) -- not so, after your comprehensive breakdown! Thanks for posting.
ND, I have to admit I was planning on finishing on the first book, but you push a very convincing sales pitch for the others. Thank you!
@kyosti Glad I could be of help, I hope you enjoy the rest of the Dune books as much as you did your first one.
I read the first book, but the rest I did not like. The new movies by Denis Villeneuve are fabulous, wow
"@Ricardo Why does this only have 9 likes? This summarized everything I needed to know perfectly. I really want to read these books now." Thanks for the feedback. Actually this used to have hundreds of likes (which, to be honest, I never expected while writing my initial comment) but I've no idea why they were deleted. In other news I'm now reading Hunters of Dune, almost 18 full years after I bought it. Seriously, it's by far the worst of all Brian H./Anderson books I've read. How they managed to create such a boring and shallow book even if they had Frank's notes about Dune 7, I have no idea. I think I'll just go back and read God Emperor of Dune for the umpteenth time.
