Heather’s answer to “do you agree this is an extremely misogynistic book?” > Likes and Comments
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(SPOILERS) i considered the overall narrative misogynistic because he builds up this one cool female character and in the end has her sacrifice herself (for a guy? for love? honor?) and be an excuse for the growth of the male character. sad-sad plot !
In my opinion, her sacrifice is not honorable at all, it is just having her clean up after Quentin. Her removal from the story in such a way, serves to give a dull hero a motivation for further developement, which is the ultimate misogyny from the author.
Nikita -- the keywords in your comment being 'meaningful relationship' and 'character development' -- two things this book lacked when it came to the character of Quentin. The relationship between Quentin and Alice at no time felt meaningful to me. Yes, if Quentin's character was a female written with the same shitty personality, sacrificing a male counterpart to Alice would have felt just as contrived -- thrown in as a last-ditch effort to make a completely unlikable and unsympathetic character somehow relateable/sympathetic. Yes, Quentin came across as misogynistic -- swapping genders would change the tone to be negative toward men instead., absolutely. Wouldn't make the character development any better either. If the character had been written well, I might have bought into the rest of it. But he wasn't. Sorry.
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Feb 18, 2015 11:48AM
(SPOILERS) i considered the overall narrative misogynistic because he builds up this one cool female character and in the end has her sacrifice herself (for a guy? for love? honor?) and be an excuse for the growth of the male character. sad-sad plot !
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In my opinion, her sacrifice is not honorable at all, it is just having her clean up after Quentin. Her removal from the story in such a way, serves to give a dull hero a motivation for further developement, which is the ultimate misogyny from the author.
Nikita -- the keywords in your comment being 'meaningful relationship' and 'character development' -- two things this book lacked when it came to the character of Quentin. The relationship between Quentin and Alice at no time felt meaningful to me. Yes, if Quentin's character was a female written with the same shitty personality, sacrificing a male counterpart to Alice would have felt just as contrived -- thrown in as a last-ditch effort to make a completely unlikable and unsympathetic character somehow relateable/sympathetic. Yes, Quentin came across as misogynistic -- swapping genders would change the tone to be negative toward men instead., absolutely. Wouldn't make the character development any better either. If the character had been written well, I might have bought into the rest of it. But he wasn't. Sorry.
