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message 1: by Lily (new)

Lily There are lots of other ways women can be subjugated. My point was, if the Ceremony was so disliked by everyone involved, including the men, I don't know why they didn't just use a turkey baster. So I think the other person that said that it wasn't about dominance over the women may have been correct, but probably closer to the whole "spilling of seed is a sin" thing in the Bible.


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Firstname Lastname Dionna: Not adding a vibrating component?


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