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I get that Kai's just a little too perfect but not quite sure I get the comment on Cyborg prejudice - since when did any kind of prejudice make sense. I can easily see people seeing cyborgs as different and therefore less plus it ties in with Cimder's bad treatment. I think it makes total sense.
But here's the thing: people aren't born cyborgs. Being a cyborg is, for the most part, not a thing you "can't help" being. It's not like skin color or gender or being deaf. It's a wildly expensive, exacting medical procedure that meets an obvious need and has obvious benefits.
Why would a society be willing to invest so many resources in saving a life, only to treat that person like crap afterward? Unlike most prejudice, "cyborg prejudice" has no modern analog. People don't tell their children not to touch the kid with a hearing aid that plugs into his head, or sniff at the guy whose eyes are replaced.
This would have been a Really Easy thing to fix in the book. Say there was a Particular Kind of cyborg who was considered inferior because they-- sometimes kill for the people who program them, or steal, or-- bring bad luck with too much metal in their chi. (Although this would require even a tiny nod toward anything Chinese from this story set in China.)
I get that it's supposed to have a sentiment of "poor Cinder," but I don't think the concept is very well thought-out.
(sorry for replying so long after you commented, I just read the book recently) the other issue I took with the cyborg prejudice is how poorly handed it was. it only came up when covenant to the plot and thus cinders near constant complaining about it came off as whiney and ungrateful rather than the reaction of someone facing adversity. I’d understand her hatred of the doctors who made her a cyborg if cyborgs where the results of horrible experiments and not attempts to save or improve a life. I n our world if someone called you four eyes you don’t blame the eye doctor
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I get that Kai's just a little too perfect but not quite sure I get the comment on Cyborg prejudice - since when did any kind of prejudice make sense. I can easily see people seeing cyborgs as different and therefore less plus it ties in with Cimder's bad treatment. I think it makes total sense.
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But here's the thing: people aren't born cyborgs. Being a cyborg is, for the most part, not a thing you "can't help" being. It's not like skin color or gender or being deaf. It's a wildly expensive, exacting medical procedure that meets an obvious need and has obvious benefits. Why would a society be willing to invest so many resources in saving a life, only to treat that person like crap afterward? Unlike most prejudice, "cyborg prejudice" has no modern analog. People don't tell their children not to touch the kid with a hearing aid that plugs into his head, or sniff at the guy whose eyes are replaced.
This would have been a Really Easy thing to fix in the book. Say there was a Particular Kind of cyborg who was considered inferior because they-- sometimes kill for the people who program them, or steal, or-- bring bad luck with too much metal in their chi. (Although this would require even a tiny nod toward anything Chinese from this story set in China.)
I get that it's supposed to have a sentiment of "poor Cinder," but I don't think the concept is very well thought-out.
(sorry for replying so long after you commented, I just read the book recently) the other issue I took with the cyborg prejudice is how poorly handed it was. it only came up when covenant to the plot and thus cinders near constant complaining about it came off as whiney and ungrateful rather than the reaction of someone facing adversity. I’d understand her hatred of the doctors who made her a cyborg if cyborgs where the results of horrible experiments and not attempts to save or improve a life. I n our world if someone called you four eyes you don’t blame the eye doctor
