Exclusive: A Sneak Peek at the 10th Anniversary Edition of The Name of the Wind

James wrote: "Kaylen wrote: "
I remember the main points of the plot to not want to read it again... I forgot all the details that make it special... What do you do when you're like..."

You skim through it, rig..."

Thank you :)

Kaylen wrote: "Thank you :) "

You're welcome.

Shaliza wrote: "DemetraP wrote: "Yeah I'm sick of waiting for the 3rd book too. At this point the wait has passed annoying and turned into "what else has this author been doing besides finishing this book?""
He's ..."

Yeah, I tried this already...seems it doesn't matter. A lot of these people don't deserve book 3

Boostamonte wrote: "A lot of these people don't deserve book 3"

Treat them as you would have them treat Rothfuss. Besides, I doubt that Patrick Rothfuss would agree with you, and he's the one being harangued.

It would be nice if they were more mature about the whole thing, but they deserve the third book by virtue of having purchased the first two and being willing to purchase the third. Simple as that.

James wrote: "Boostamonte wrote: "A lot of these people don't deserve book 3"

Treat them as you would have them treat Rothfuss. Besides, I doubt that Patrick Rothfuss would agree with you, and he's the one bein..."

Yeah but at this point, their attitude toward someone that is giving us something so amazing is just sickening. To the point that I would be fine if he never finished it. They may have bought a ticket to the horse show, and have come and seen the gift horse, but it is "their choice" to kick the gift horse in the mouth.

Buying something someone has made doesn't give you the right to be a heartless asshole to them for not making new stuff fast enough.

Boostamonte wrote: "Buying something someone has made doesn't give you the right to be a heartless asshole to them for not making new stuff fast enough. "

Never said it did.

I'm just saying that, if you wish to castigate them for boorish behaviour, then it behooves you to be better than they were.

James wrote: "Besides, I doubt that Patrick Rothfuss would agree with you, and he's the one bein..."
Actually, he does agree! He's talked several times about this issue, and tells people who harass him that every time they do so, he pushes the release of book 3 further down the road. Although it's a joke, he's not saying it lightly and he's been known to block people on his social media for the type of behavior that's been displayed in this conversation.

Samhain wrote: "Actually, he does agree!"

I'm not sure how you equate joking about the release or preventing trollish behaviour with "you don't deserve my book", but that's a mistake. There is no equivalence.

He rightly sees their behaviour as boorish and takes necessary steps to avoid it. He doesn't demean the value of other people because they are being boorish.

They deserve the books as much as you do, or do not, deserve them. What they don't deserve is the sense of entitlement that they feel.

Ah, Patrick's "kind" fan base, consistently making threats against him to finish Doors of Stone since 2012.

Gotta love that kind of loyalty.

We're not entitled to a third book.

He's not entitled to me buying any of his tie-in products for a series that won't be finished.

No one argues that he's allowed to live his life, or that he must slavishly write to soothe the masses. The thing people are complaining about is that he keeps advertising products for the world he created and pushing us to buy his stuff. The thing is, he's just re-packaging the same stuff over and over at this point. He hypes his product and then doesn't make it. No one argues that losing a parent shouldn't interrupt writing - my God, it should! But the "The book has been written and just needs some edits, be out in a year, in the meantime, buy this thing I made. Hey, yeah I said book was finished but it wasn't really fleshed out, it'll be out next year, watch my stream and buy this t-shirt! When I said the book was written it was just an outline but I'll have that done in no time, here's a link of me playing D&D for money. I'm just so super-duper busy guys, I've no time to write, don't forget to buy my Tak board for $80 and I'm currently looking into making a movie!"

It gets old. It feels like he's lying to get us to buy more stuff from his side projects.

I've never gotten on Lynch for being years behind his projected schedule because it never feels like he's lying or pushing product.

I'm halfway in between with this topic. On the one hand the writer should be allowed to take his time to make a great product and the people whining at him constantly are being quite entitled.

On the other hand, the writer's job is to write books. Imagine frequently going up to your boss and saying you weren't going to work this month because you wanted to "live your life," yeah you'd be without a job pretty dang fast.

It might help if he was a bit more honest with his fans about how the book was coming along. If he's struggling, say so. Maybe pull a Brandon Sanderson and have a status bar listing the progress of said book.

Nanksy wrote: "You know, just because you want a conclusion to a story you got involved with, gives you no rights over a writer. He is under no obligation to write a book to satisfy your curiosity. If he never wr..."
Oh but he does. The writer and reader are entering into a collaboration, and the writer violates this code of conduct when he takes inordinate amount of time(looking at you too, George RR Martin). This is even more true in epic fantasy novels that are understood to be a multi volume endeavor.

I'm not sure when long waits become too long but 6 years is definitely in the latter category

Nanksy wrote: "You know, just because you want a conclusion to a story you got involved with, gives you no rights over a writer. He is under no obligation to write a book to satisfy your curiosity. If he never wr..."

This.

DemetraP wrote: "Yeah I'm sick of waiting for the 3rd book too. At this point the wait has passed annoying and turned into "what else has this author been doing besides finishing this book?""

Some pretty damn amazing things. He completed a short story about Bast in the Rogues anthologies, a novella about Auri, runs a really phenomenal charity, consistently goes to events that fans appreciate, and makes time for his family and takes care of his own mental health. In addition to spending time writing the 3rd book (which he talks about on his blog), he's also been collaborating with folks to create really awesome stuff - like the Tak board that just came out this year.

Am i the only one that actually prefers the other 10th anniversary edition of this book?
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Not that the one shown above isn't pretty but its a bit too... much? while i think the Orion Publishing version is a bit more... classic? Does anyone even understand what i am trying to say?

I just hope they are coming with matching editions for book 2 as well!

John wrote: "The writer and reader are entering into a collaboration, and the writer violates this code of conduct when he takes inordinate amount of time"

This is not accurate.

The "collaboration" is in the experience of whichever writing is being read. The only possible schedules which must be maintained are legal ones around contracts between author and publisher. You (and any other reader) are neither, so it's irrelevant.

There is no compact, no blood-signed contract, no pinky-swear.

You are free to complain about the unfairness of it all, but it's not really unfair. Don't sit and wait for one series to finish, before you read your next book. And your next book.

As Neil Gaiman said about readers with entitlement issues directed at George R R Martin, and equally applicable, here, "[he] is not your b*tch".

If the books were "free" we would not have any right to be annoyed because the 3rd book has not been out yet.

But, reality is different. People paid for this story and being make to wait a decade to read the end of it is just ridiculous.

If Rothfuss wants to expand the world and do other things, fine do it. But finish the damn story first, He is only allowed to the things he does now at the scale he does them because, a lot of people paid money for that first book. That is the reality. To say that he doesn't own anybody anything is way off the mark.

Being a published writer is his job.

I heard somewhere, I forget where, that Patrick originally wrote the entire trilogy as one book, and that the publisher encouraged him to split it up. If true, does that mean that there is a draft of book 3 around somewhere?

I am actually not worried about book 3 , it will be published when finished. What I am worried about is when will he publish rest of the story if this one book is taking so long.
I Remember he has mentioned this in an interview that book three will only finish this arc of the story, that most likely means we will See Kvothe killing a king but Most likely nothing else, like everything to do Amyr and Chandrian

Nelson wrote: "People paid for this story and being make to wait a decade to read the end of it is just ridiculous."

No. People paid for the first book. Then they paid for the second book. And if you bought the books second-hand, then he was paid nothing.

He delivered the books you paid for.

Nelson wrote: "If Rothfuss wants to expand the world and do other things, fine do it. But finish the damn story first"

He is not your bitch.

Nelson wrote: "He is only allowed to the things he does now at the scale he does them because, a lot of people paid money for that first book. "

Except he is not "allowed to [do] the things he does now". You're complaining about him not doing it on your schedule. Which means you don't really want him to have any freedom beyond what you afford him.

Nelson wrote: "To say that he doesn't own anybody anything is way off the mark."

No, it's not. Ideally, he will finish the story. Same with any series, by any author.

"Ideally" is not "contractually obligated by the universe".

Nelson wrote: "Being a published writer is his job."

And he succeeds, admirably.

Your job is to realize that there are so many other writers, out there, that your happiness doesn't hinge on this one man's next novel.

There is no logical argument you can make that explains the belief in his obligation. Except this: a strong, unsupported, sense of entitlement.

Book 3 will take forever to come.

I think part of it can be attributed to the success of the first two ... wanting book 3 to live up to the standard ... plus knowing that Patrick Rothfuss is a perfectionist.

Jo wrote: "Mostly, it's just a sense of being lied to. "

And yet, you understand that there's a vast potential difference between "a sense of being lied to" and "actually being lied to"... right?

And I don't think you understand the difference between author (writes the books) and publisher (produces new editions).

And, as well, I don't feel any pressure to spend lots of money. I'm reading books, not cards.

I can understand everyone is sick of waiting.
Of course I also want to know what will come next.

BUT I prefer waiting more than a new book with less quality.
And in this case there are enourmous expectations, because we love the first books for what they are: Outstanding works with beautiful language, a fascinating new story and a soul. Everyone doing something creative knows how hard it is to create something you're truly satisfied with. So Pat, do your thing. Someone who creates something so beautiful knows best what's good for it to happen.
I'll wait.
(PS: Waiting is a wonderful reason to find new books to love either.)

Jo wrote: "But this attempt at debating others is nonsense. What's your goal? To debate other people into being fine waiting years for a novel?

"Gosh, I sure was annoyed at the money I wasted on those books, but then James here came along and now I know I should never have expected an ending."
[...]
Of course it's all annoying, and if you can't see that you need to seriously consider what's wrong with you.
"

Gosh, I sure wasn't annoyed at the money no one forced me to spend on those books, but then Jo here came along and told me something was wrong with me because I didn't share their opinion (which is obviously the only right one to have) and now I know I should have harassed Rothfuss, and accused people with different opinions to be "fanboys/girls", every chances I got!

Joke aside, both frustration and patiently waiting are understandable attitudes, as long as you behave respectfully to other people (including the author). At this point, it doesn't matter what your opinion on the matter is. Just don't be a Jo about it.

Take your time with the 3rd book. I want a good ending or none at all.

Jo wrote: "But this attempt at debating others is nonsense. What's your goal? "

What's yours?

And to your challenges of apologetics or justifications, I have participated in neither. My point is that he has nothing to apologize for. It's moralistic circular reasoning. As far as I'm concerned, he can go on an extended vacation, every month.

Patrick Rothfuss is not your bitch.

But keep putting other's arguments against me. It really.... ummm... proves your point?

Jo wrote: "Here's some more crap apologists like to write: "he hasn't finished the book because he's been taking care of his dying father."
Okay, well, that sounds serious. Except."

This response is insensitive af. Whether you expect it or not, losing a parent is hard as hell and people react/grieve differently. Staying busy is one of the ways I tried to cope with losing my mother, and that may be what Rothfuss was doing as well.

It's also crazy to expect someone who makes a living from being an author not to pursue other revenue streams for their work, while they continue to write the next book.

James wrote: "Nelson wrote: "People paid for this story and being make to wait a decade to read the end of it is just ridiculous."

No. People paid for the first book. Then they paid for the second book. And if ..."

I have to disagree completely with all your "arguments"

From the moment he decided to put "Book 1" on the 1st book a contract was made with his audience. The promise of finishing the goddamn story in an acceptable time. He hasn't done that.

"He is not your bitch"

Of course, he isn't, I don't have bitches. Being responsible for your job and delivering on it is not being a bitch. Be original and stop quoting fucking Neil Gaiman as if it was your idea.

He's now a successful merchandise machine, nothing else.

imagine if we start cutting this kind of slack for other kinds of professions.

A Dentist

"Well I know I have to extract 4 teeth, Mr. Smith, But I'll just extract 2"

"What?"

"Yes, I don't feel like extracting the other ones, maybe I'll do it and a couple years... maybe 10... yes."

Fucking TV writers need to deliver seasons every year and they put their hearts and souls into it, that's it. So, yeah. Successful published writer my ass. He isn't that unless he keeps you know... publishing.

Nelson wrote: "Of course, he isn't, I don't have bitches. Being responsible for your job and delivering on it is not being a bitch. Be original and stop quoting fucking Neil Gaiman as if it was your idea. "

When you stop speaking about him like he is your bitch, I'll stop saying it.

You are completely mistaken about what his "job" is. He writes. Publishers pay him, for the right to copy his work and sell it. The cycle continues. He's his own boss. If he decides that the next novel can wait a few years, while he masters fly-fishing and tiddlywinks, then maybe he'll bring some fishing lore to the last novel.

Grow up.

His next publication: 10th Anniversary Edition - A wise man's fear!!! Stay tuned!

James wrote: "Nelson wrote: "Of course, he isn't, I don't have bitches. Being responsible for your job and delivering on it is not being a bitch. Be original and stop quoting fucking Neil Gaiman as if it was you..."

He owns his readers, that's it.

Stop enable him. You loser.

Nelson wrote: "He owns his readers, that's it. "

I'll answer as if that weren't a typo: yes, but he only owns the ones who can't let go.

Nelson wrote: "Stop enable him. "

I not enable him. I sympathize him.

Nelson wrote: "You loser. "

Yes, it is a great burden I must bear. Don't bully me with your big words and syntactical wonders.

James wrote: "Nelson wrote: "Of course, he isn't, I don't have bitches. Being responsible for your job and delivering on it is not being a bitch. Be original and stop quoting fucking Neil Gaiman as if it was you..."

This thread is really getting hostile and you are perpetuating it. Instead of telling people to "grow up" why don't you and leave this thread. Staying here when you obviously disagree is the definition of immature and petty.

GypsyBookworm wrote: "Staying here when you obviously disagree is the definition of immature and petty."

No, actually, it's not. Look it up. Perhaps you'd have a point, if you said "obstinate". You didn't.

I'm not disagreeing with everyone. I'm disagreeing with those who speak from a place of entitlement that is, in no way, earned. The ones being ignorant, toward the author whose work they claim to love. Feel free to choose which side you fall on the human/work scale. I'm for the human, with any work being secondary. And I'm for the human, over my baser desires, like "literary satisfaction".

How 'bout you?

Nanksy wrote: "You know, just because you want a conclusion to a story you got involved with, gives you no rights over a writer. He is under no obligation to write a book to satisfy your curiosity. If he never wr..."
If you write a book only for yourself you shouldn't publish it. Once you release it though, you do have an obligation to your readers.

Kruemi wrote: "Once you release it though, you do have an obligation to your readers"

Can you detail that? People toss out the obligation thing, but don't really explain it.

What code/system is the obligation within? Is it moral, legal, philosophical (in what way?)?

How is the time-frame determined? Is there a system or is his next book due as soon as the first fan wants it?

In what way have you (or any others) earned a book that hasn't been published, yet? Keep in mind that work done on previous books has nothing to do with a work which hasn't even been created, yet. And also keep in mind that your own, personal, inner workings have nothing to do with the author or his unpublished works.

I really would appreciate a deeper understanding, beyond the usual surface. If it only appears to be an unjustified sense of entitlement because I've missed something, please help me clarify that.

Thanks.

Yo me he rendido esperando la tercera entrega. Cuando tenga que publicarse se publicará. Aunque si el autor sigue dando largas saldrá antes la película que el libro.

James wrote: "GypsyBookworm wrote: "Staying here when you obviously disagree is the definition of immature and petty."

No, actually, it's not. Look it up. Perhaps you'd have a point, if you said "obstinate". Yo..."

It is clear we obviously will never agree. You are intent on willfully misunderstanding me. I am going to be the mature one and leave now.

Nanksy wrote: "If he never writes another word, it is his life and his right. Why don't you write a book. Make it as long as you want and finish it or not. Try to write on demand sometime. Leave the guy alone and go live your own life. Mr. Rothfuss owes you nothing."

I agree with you. However, when book one was released, the public was given to understand that all three books were written and would be published with a one year break between them.

Then story got incredibly popular and with it, Rothfuss. Part of his popularity and reason for remaining so is precisely the promise of book three.

So of course, he has the right to retire and never write another word if he wants. I also think it's well within his fandom's rights to criticize him. He hasn't been able to deliver on book three 10 years after it was supposedly written. It feels a bit like being led on by someone who just likes the fawning attention.

OMGGGG! I need this. I miss this series.

¸. • * ° *❧Gwendolyn❧•°**★•°**★ wrote: "Alyssa wrote: "I can't find the 10th anniversary edition on Amazon, any ideas?"

Here you go Alyssa (just click)

https://thetinkerspacks.com/products/......"
You're awesome, thank you!!!! I'll wait forever with you :)

Can somebody tell if DAW did sew the binding this time?

This is the only 'special' edition of the book to date.

Joaquin wrote: "Can somebody tell if DAW did sew the binding this time?

This is the only 'special' edition of the book to date."

DAW Books Inc is at the bottom of the title page.

Mine just arrived today (I had pre-ordered on Walmart) and it is GORGEOUS!

The cover feels strange but awesome and the pages are red (you know what I mean lol). And the way the pages are designed make the book feel somewhat like a Bible. That's the best way I can describe it.

Everyone needs to stop quibbling and just buy it.

Amber J. wrote: "Joaquin wrote: "Can somebody tell if DAW did sew the binding this time?

This is the only 'special' edition of the book to date."

DAW Books Inc is at the bottom of the title page.

Mine just arri..."

Thanks for your comment. I'm still not totally clear if the binding is sewn (smyth-sewn) or only pasted.

Joaquin wrote: "Amber J. wrote: "Joaquin wrote: "Can somebody tell if DAW did sew the binding this time?

This is the only 'special' edition of the book to date."

DAW Books Inc is at the bottom of the title page..."

I see red and gold threading at the top and bottom of the binding, but I also see what looks like glue residue across the top of a few pages and along the threading. So maybe the threading is ornamental...I hope that helps

Amber J. wrote: "Joaquin wrote: "Amber J. wrote: "Joaquin wrote: "Can somebody tell if DAW did sew the binding this time?

This is the only 'special' edition of the book to date."

DAW Books Inc is at the bottom o..."

Thanks! ;-)

Jo wrote: "What I *am* arguing is that people who are annoyed not only have a right to be annoyed, but also that the source of their annoyance is abundantly obvious."

It is abundantly obvious. A worldview of some fans that they are entitled to the creative works of others. That they are entitled to whatever they want, really.

Rothfuss, by not jumping to his desk and whipping out the final book, is challenging the entire worldview of people who believe that it is their right (sufficient to justify exceedingly boorish behaviour) to get this book.

In psychological terms, this is an egodystonic situation. The ego, being under threat, lashes out in an attempt to figuratively destroy the threat.

Is that what you meant, by "abundantly obvious"? Because it is, to me.

Jo wrote: "In short, I consider this anniversary edition to be a slap in the face to the fans who have waited for book iii"

Luckily, your considerations don't change reality. Note that fans who aren't angry and upset don't feel that they've been slapped, whereas fans who are already all-bunched-up are feeling the additional sting. This suggests that it's internal (something you are doing to yourself) as opposed to external (something that would effect everyone).

James, I think you're being a bit harsh in your generalizations. You appear to be claiming that anybody who feels even a bit let down by the delay in Doors of Stone is selfish and entitled. You further claim that Patrick Rothfuss owes the readers of his books nothing beyond that which he has already produced, that any expectation on our part of a conclusion to Kvothe's story is purely internally generated. But here's the thing. That's crap.

When I read NOTW eight years ago, I approached the end of the book with a mounting sense of horror. You see, I didn't realize that it was the first book of three and I was crazy disappointed that I'd have to wait for the rest of the story! Now, that's not Pat's fault; he delivered an insanely good book and I'd enjoyed the crap out of it. I was the one that missed the fact that it was book one. But that makes my disappointment no less real. Did Pat owe me the rest of the story? Well, strictly speaking, no. But he has certainly benefited from my expectation of the rest of the story.

I can tell you unequivocally that as much as I enjoyed NOTW I would not have purchased any more of Pat's books if I hadn't expected that one day I would get to read the conclusion of the story. In fact, I would have stayed away because I enjoyed NOTW so much. Why torture myself with an unfinished narrative? Yes, WMF was also a very enjoyable experience but all it did was heighten the anticipation for the close of Kvothe's story. I think the same could be said for a large number of Pat's fans, however patient or not we may be. We love these books and we love the story and it's the depth of that love that makes the frustration due the delay of Book 3 so acute.

You are correct that if Patrick Rothfuss does not produce a single additional word of the Kingkiller Chronicle none of his fans will have been materially wronged. In the contractual sense, the only entity he owes anything to is his publisher. We can whine all we want and it will do no good. But that does not mean that our anger will be unjustified. The best way to think of it is that we've extended Patrick a form of credit with both our money and our attention and he's facing Chapter 11 bankruptcy. He wrote a book and told us that that it was book one of three. At that point he committed to finish the story. No, that commitment was not legally binding and we have no recourse if he reneges but it was still a commitment. We bought that book (mostly) knowing that was only the first installment in the story and so we received what we paid for but for many of us, a key reason we bought that book or any of the others was the promise of a conclusion. Every other thing we have bought from Pat has been based on the same promise. Monetarily, he has delivered incrementally on his debt but attention-wise he still owes and his creditors are getting justifiably restless.

Now, I'm completely on the side of "I'd rather wait patiently for a book that lives up to my sky high expectations" rather than "Screw you, Pat! I will hate everything you do until you give me what I want!" I do think it's childish to berate him for living his life and seeking fulfillment however he might find it. Granted, part of my wish for Pat's happiness is that I expect it will help him finish DOS faster but I figure that's a win/win so I don't feel too bad about my ulterior motive, nor do I expect, does Pat. I also understand that this 10th anniversary edition is a standard thing done by publishers and not something Pat is pushing. Though, it did require some work by Pat and he's going to go on tour for it so it's not like it doesn't affect the release of DOS. And this is also a reminder that 10 years ago Patrick Rothfuss promised us, with the publication of NOTW, that he would finish this story and is once again putting his name on a publication that continues that promise.

All of which is to say that while I'm not sharpening my pitchfork, it's ridiculous to claim that nobody has any grounds to be upset. I'm glad that you, like I, have been able to look at the extended timeline of the publication of these books and say "I'm just going to be happy for whatever portion of the story I get when I get it." Though, again, I'll point out that at least for my part, that patience is based on the assumption that the book is eventually coming. But I can also feel some empathy for people who are raving mad about the delay. Their frustration is justified even if the circumstances don't cause the same level of frustration for you or I. It's not entitlement to expect something that was promised to you. It's not unjustified to wonder why it's taking so long for somebody to finish a thing that they've repeatedly said they're almost done with.

Neil wrote: "James, I think you're being a bit harsh in your generalizations. You appear to be claiming that anybody who feels even a bit let down by the delay in Doors of Stone is selfish and entitled..."

I wonder if it's occurred to anyone that maybe Rothfuss' expectations for himself and his trilogy's ending have changed since a decade ago when he released the first book.

Those who are impatient seem to be harping on the fact that the series was basically completed already, according to Rothfuss. That may have been the case. He may have had a rough draft for the final book or a nearly complete Book 3. But so many things have happened over the last ten years that he did not foresee -- millions of people loving his work just to start with.

Also, writing Slow Regard was not something he had anticipated. The experience of writing that novella may have changed his feelings about other parts of the story. Raising children may have also changed how he feels about his work. Dealing with the day-to-day crap that life throws at us could have also had an effect. There could be any number of things that altered his connection to his cast of characters and the story.

Book 3 could be similar to or completely different from what he envisioned when he said he knew how things would end year ago. Almost everyone who has read his work seems to have been changed by the experience, and maybe Rothfuss has changed too. So it's probably taking him longer than even he expected to write an ending worthy of the attention and accolades this series has received.

I decided to wait for the 10th anniversary edition to be released for me to start this series. And if that means there's still no Book 3 by the time I finish this one and the next one and the novella, then I'm okay with that. As far as I know no one has pre-paid for Book 3, and buying the books that have already been released don't count as some down payment for future installments. Everyone got exactly what they paid for, and, even if they may be frustrated, don't have a right to expect more than that.

Jo wrote: "Rothfuss ruined his credibility, and that's what you fail to grasp."

I don't know what you mean. The only credibility that he has, in my mind, is as a phenomenal writer. None of this silliness has anything to do with ruining that.

I also don't care about the writing style of time-management coaches. It's not relevant to their credibility at what they do.

Surely you can see that?

Jo wrote: "Your inability to offer others the same freedom to express their opinion is odd."

You mean the freedom to say/imply things like, "he's a lousy person [for not completing the series]". A lousy person. For not giving you what you feel you are entitled to. Christ.


Jo wrote: "Person B says, "Meh, this author sucks for never having finished the story."."

Except, even in your own example, you fail to mirror the actual case. You example implies a finite problem. As if he lived a long life and just never bothered.

Take a deep breath and wait.