Tim Wise Interview with Chauncey DeVega: Trump, White Fragility and Race in America (Feb 4 Podcast)

Here’s my latest interview with cultural critic and writer Chauncey DeVega, from a week or so ago , posted to DeVega’s website on February 4. We discuss Trump(ism), the occupation of the Oregon wildlife preserve by white militants, the 2016 election and the issue of white fragility in America. Always a great time chatting with Chauncey. Give a listen!