The Thorny Meltdown

Once again, someone in the community hasn’t performed as expected or conformed to the group’s vision of how people need to act, and the villagers are out with the torches and pitchforks, gnashing their teeth and slavering for a kill. I’m … Continue reading →
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Published on November 24, 2015 05:31
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message 1: by Jack (new)

Jack Pyke Quote from post: "I’m talking about the Thorny/Missy blowup". Do you mean Missy Welsh? How do you tie her to Thorny? :) I'm just curious because I've not seen Missy's name tied to this before. Do you have evidence for/against?


message 2: by Theo (new)

Theo Fenraven The news is all over FB. Consider yourself lucky you missed it. ;) I was told she privately shared this information with a few people a couple months ago, so it was only a matter of time before it came out anyway. As for evidence... this is not the place to talk about that, but yes, there is evidence beyond what Missy shared.

I wrote the blog in an attempt to offer some perspective. Yes, she crossed a couple of lines, and people "Thorny" was close to offline have every right to be pissed. But she didn't murder anyone. The intense vilification the community often indulges in when "catching" someone in situations like this should stop. It's almost as if they delight in nailing someone to the cross and throwing shit at them.

There's no shame in being taken in by someone. Happens all the time, and not only online. Lick your wounds, be an adult, and move on. It's healthier for everyone if you do.


message 3: by Jack (new)

Jack Pyke Evidence of any possible ties are being removed between Missy and Thorny (blog posts on cover reveals etc, how Thorny spoke to Missy on social media etc). If you had a substantial link to something, I advise you keep it to hand as it keeps you protected as well. The only viable link that ties to Missy and Thorny, and which comes up in a google search, is this post. :)

As for the argument itself and: Theo wrote: "But she didn't murder anyone"

It's not murder by a long shot, no. But a conman is a conman, and that has its own laws and legislation. If someone came to your door, showing false ID and soliciting money under that false ID, you would have called the police, no ifs, buts, or 'heck, they haven't killed anyone.'

Just because it's done over the internet doesn't make the impact any less of a crime. It doesn't make it hurt any less. In fact, because we share such a close community in m/m, it hurts more.


message 4: by Theo (new)

Theo Fenraven Why would I possibly need protection in this case? I'm involved only peripherally, as so many others are.

If the people who gave her gifts and/or money feel they have a case against her, they should file charges.

Perhaps a case could even be made against those people who knew about this months ago and didn't say a word.


message 5: by Jack (last edited Nov 26, 2015 08:01AM) (new)

Jack Pyke Because if there's a chance that it isn't Missy, then it's a potential libel statement that you've written tying her to Thorny... :) Hence having the links to back up your claim.

I'm all for learning who's behind Thorny, believe me, but without evidence to see how this link is being made...


message 6: by Theo (last edited Nov 26, 2015 08:07AM) (new)

Theo Fenraven Thanks for your concern, but she told me in an email over a week ago. It has been common knowledge for several days. I would not have put her name in my blog if I hadn't been 100% sure of the connection.


message 7: by Jack (new)

Jack Pyke Part of me hopes it isn't Missy. It makes it worse, knowing she kept Thorny going as she made sales as a female author. Her argument for keeping Thorny running becomes redundant by her own sale figures as a female author.


message 8: by Theo (new)

Theo Fenraven Thorny's first book was reviewed on USA Today and sold a ton of copies. His name, and the following it fostered, made that possible.

It would be interesting to see the numbers.


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