flangst:silentauroriamthereal:I have a question for all of you who love Mary as a villain. This...

flangst:

silentauroriamthereal:

I have a question for all of you who love Mary as a villain. This is just pure curiosity, by the way; I’m not trying to start drama or anything. I’m just wondering how you would potentially feel or react if, in series 4, Mary is not portrayed as a villain in any way, John’s forgiveness was real, and their relationship is apparently fine? Let’s just assume you’ve said all of the “but that would never happen!” type things and go to the hypothetical place of “but let’s just say that’s what does happen”. What would you think of that? 

I feel that there’s been too much built up that points in the direction of her being a villain–her lack of remorse, her condescending attitude, never asking for forgiveness, the way she’s framed and portrayed, etc.. I think that just having the forgiveness be genuine would be a major cop-out and even though I have a strong feeling that Mary won’t last forever it would still be very disappointing! It would do a huge disservice to Mary’s character to have her suddenly be totally ok after this huge unresolved villainous moment that a whole episode was based around. Lots of little things are filmed a certain way for a certain reason… Maybe it’s just the meta talking but I don’t think Mary was meant to be forgiven by the audience.

But what if she’s just meant to be seen as “sassy”, or a Strong Female Character ™ and that her absolutely chemistry-less*, emotionally abusive snark-fest with John is supposed to be seen as “loving banter” or something, much in the style of Amy and -> Rory in Doctor Who? I’m just - I feel very cautious about everything, that’s all. It sure seemed that like they that Mary would be absolutely adored and revered in fan events following the release of series 3, so I just don’t even know. And there certainly is a giant faction of the fandom who do feel that way, too! (I’m scared.) 

*ok, there’s some chemistry in the sense of the old-married thing, which I think comes directly and only from the fact that it’s Martin and Amanda, but there’s nothing in the way of newly-wed, head-over-heels in love-type chemistry, at least not in my eyes!!