How about trying to discuss the actual issue?

How I try, on these threads, to move away from the futile contest over whether there is or is not a God,  which all intelligent and honest people know will remain undecided everywhere on this side of the tomb.

But I can't do it, even when I call in aid one of the most distinguished atheists who ever lived.

I quoted him thus in my support:

'���Most ignorance is vincible ignorance. We don���t know *because we don���t want to know*(my emphasis). It is our will that decides how and upon what subjects we shall use our intelligence. Those who detect no meaning in the world generally do so because, for one reason or another, it suits their books that the world should be meaningless������

Yet I do not think one of the atheist responses to this post has actually dealt with this simple. well-expressed point by one of their own, a point I have likewise striven to make myself repeatedly. If one has, I have missed it and would be grateful to have it pointed out to me.