WNW: Things We Say Wrong--Right
Found a fun video showing a lot of incorrect usage and pronunciation in English. It's really funny and worth taking a look/listen.
Two of my favorite bits:
"Text messaging has erased any sense of spelling you may have gleaned"
"I could care less."
But . . . I have a few beefs.
First, watch the video. Then read my rant.
Okay . . .
First off, he says that if you feel bad that's incorrect. He insists that the adverb form is needed: you feel badly.
See, here's the thing: feel bad is just fine.
In fact, it's more correct . . . unless he's discussing the sensing capability of his nerve endings and how they just don't work anymore.
Then he could feel badly, because he'd be NUMB.
Aside from that example, the fact is that you don't always need the -ly adverbial form, which he brings up multiple times, like with talk different vs. talk differently.
It comes down to FLAT ADVERBS, something this dude could use a lesson on.
(For a quick lesson, check out Grammar Girl's explanation. She points out that flat adverbs go back the 1600s. They're more popular now, but hardly new.)
And then there's this complaint:
a whole nother apple
Here's the deal: English has lots of pre-fixes (like UN as in unsolved puzzle), and suffixes (like FUL, as in thankFUL), and many others.
Just about every language also has IN-fixes, where the "fix" is sandwiched in the middle of words. English doesn't support infixes very well, but guess what?
A whole nother is essentially an English INFIX.
They exist, dude. Deal with it.
Also, alternate pronunciations aren't wrong just because they exist. Yes, words are sometimes pronounced incorrectly, but if, over decades, more than one pronunciation is considered acceptable by the educated masses, the others will be added to dictionaries.
This happens with English a lot, since most of the planet speaks it (at least as a second language), and many, many countries have it as a national language and speak it with their own pronunciation and variations.
(I'm not about to tell an Aussie that his way of saying "mate" is wrong. Are you?)
Thing is, LANGUAGE EVOLVES. (Read that post for yet another rant.)
From Chaucer's and Shakespeare's standpoints, our English would be ridiculously "wrong." But no, it's not wrong. English has just CHANGED over the centuries. A lot.
The final kicker of the video would be really funny if he weren't still harping on the adverbial thing.
I wanted to absolutely love the video. I loved parts. But he lost a bit of credibility on some points. Sigh.
Note on last week's WNW: Got a few questions on passive voice, including whether something like "she was excited" falls under that umbrella. Will discuss that soon!
© 2010 Annette Lyon, all rights reserved[image error]
Two of my favorite bits:
"Text messaging has erased any sense of spelling you may have gleaned"
"I could care less."
But . . . I have a few beefs.
First, watch the video. Then read my rant.
Okay . . .
First off, he says that if you feel bad that's incorrect. He insists that the adverb form is needed: you feel badly.
See, here's the thing: feel bad is just fine.
In fact, it's more correct . . . unless he's discussing the sensing capability of his nerve endings and how they just don't work anymore.
Then he could feel badly, because he'd be NUMB.
Aside from that example, the fact is that you don't always need the -ly adverbial form, which he brings up multiple times, like with talk different vs. talk differently.
It comes down to FLAT ADVERBS, something this dude could use a lesson on.
(For a quick lesson, check out Grammar Girl's explanation. She points out that flat adverbs go back the 1600s. They're more popular now, but hardly new.)
And then there's this complaint:
a whole nother apple
Here's the deal: English has lots of pre-fixes (like UN as in unsolved puzzle), and suffixes (like FUL, as in thankFUL), and many others.
Just about every language also has IN-fixes, where the "fix" is sandwiched in the middle of words. English doesn't support infixes very well, but guess what?
A whole nother is essentially an English INFIX.
They exist, dude. Deal with it.
Also, alternate pronunciations aren't wrong just because they exist. Yes, words are sometimes pronounced incorrectly, but if, over decades, more than one pronunciation is considered acceptable by the educated masses, the others will be added to dictionaries.
This happens with English a lot, since most of the planet speaks it (at least as a second language), and many, many countries have it as a national language and speak it with their own pronunciation and variations.
(I'm not about to tell an Aussie that his way of saying "mate" is wrong. Are you?)
Thing is, LANGUAGE EVOLVES. (Read that post for yet another rant.)
From Chaucer's and Shakespeare's standpoints, our English would be ridiculously "wrong." But no, it's not wrong. English has just CHANGED over the centuries. A lot.
The final kicker of the video would be really funny if he weren't still harping on the adverbial thing.
I wanted to absolutely love the video. I loved parts. But he lost a bit of credibility on some points. Sigh.
Note on last week's WNW: Got a few questions on passive voice, including whether something like "she was excited" falls under that umbrella. Will discuss that soon!
© 2010 Annette Lyon, all rights reserved[image error]
Published on December 08, 2010 07:00
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