Three Dirty Birds Before You Revise

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Three Dirty Birds are chirping about what you should do before you revise your book, and what James Scott Bell thinks you should do.


Zoe: First I want to say that I did some of the exercises in the Theme chapter last Sunday, and ohmygod. What a help! It led to me rewriting the current WIP in a different POV, and totally unlocked it. I���m so happy.


Kate: So that���s where you disappeared to this week. I was wondering���


I liked this chapter, mostly because it validated my own workflow, and I always like that. :) I like to edit the last couple of pages from yesterday in order to get back in the mindset of writing, and remind myself of the details of the story.


Zoe: I���m usually a first-draft-fast person, but I���ve changed it up with the current WIP because I love the rewriting process, and the first-drafting process is fraught with frustration and anxiety for me, so this time I���m doing a lot of revising as I write, bopping back and forth between new and old. It���s been enjoyable, and if it takes two months instead of one to finish the draft, it���s not really a problem because the time will come off the other end of the process, when I do fewer revision drafts.


Kate: I���m more like the Susan Meissner quote he included in this chapter–I���m constantly revising, so that by the end, when I have my finished product, it really is finished. It���s not really a first draft, because some of those sections have been gone over 20 times.


Ana: I���m��� all over the place. I often have to do major rewrites once I���m done with the first draft, but with the last story that wasn���t necessary as I revised it as I wrote it, kind of like what���s Kate is doing. Heaven only knows how the next ms will go���


Zoe: The only thing I get concerned about with the revising-as-I-write thing is that I go over the first part of the book a bazillion more times than I go over the last part of the book, just because the first part is around longer. It gets peeked-back-at way more.


Ana: Which is probably why I currently itch to rewrite my ending���.


Kate: That is a concern. Where I move around within the storyline, writing beginnings, then ends, then chunks of middle, I get parts all around the book that get combed through a lot more, then parts in between that probably get only five passes or so. It does worry me that there are uneven sections, and I try to go back to those spots a bit more as I finish up, but it doesn���t always make a difference. I think, because those tend to be ���connecting��� sections, in between the ���tent-pole��� sections. I���d like to think it���s not so big a deal, but the back of my brain says, ���No.���


Zoe: In the 20,000-word step-back section, he talks about a book he was working on where ���the feeling that I hadn���t quite connected with the book persisted,��� and I have a sticky note there that says ���Oh God I know that feeling.���


Ana: Hah, yeah, me too. I thought that was an interesting idea though, the 20k step thing. I���m not actively writing a novel, but revising one. I got about 23-25k into it this week, so yesterday was my day off, and today I���ll be going over that section again. Probably after doing some writing exercises from the deepening chapter.


Zoe: (I really liked the Deepening chapter. Looking forward to talking about it when we get to it.)


Ana: He talks about using the Word comments feature. I don���t write in Word, but I love the little window-thingy at the left hand side in Scrivener where I can scribble document notes.


Kate: I never noticed that before! Woohoo! New toy!


Zoe: I love that too. When I actually use Scrivener. It���s so handy. I always forget how to get to the overall document notes area vs. the current-chapter/scene document notes area.


Ana: I think you click the headline where it says document notes and you can switch to project notes? Not sure if it���s the same in Scrivener for Mac.


Zoe: That sounds right. Next time I run into that problem, I���ll come back and ask you again. :)


Ana: You know where to find me. Just follow the trail of chocolate.


Kate: Mmmm, chocolate.


Zoe: ���Why are all these candy wrappers lying under this tree branch???���


Kate: I choked when he started talking about tables and spreadsheets. Freezes me up completely. I just cannot do that.


Zoe: I can���t either. It���s a sure way to get me to start on housework.


Ana: I quickly skimmed over that part and pretended it doesn���t exist.


Kate: What I���d like is a giant whiteboard I can write and erase on, where I can brainstorm and make notes and none of it is permanent, so I don���t feel trapped. More of a warm blanky feeling than a straitjacket sensation.


Zoe: Sticky notes are my best friends. Messy, disordered sticky notes. Many of them with the sticky strip and the writing on the same side because I didn���t notice the pad was upside down when I started scribbling.


Kate: Lol. You artist, you.


Zoe: It���s my warm, yellow blanky. (Speaking of which…I tried the tip for writing down a story question before I went to sleep last night. Didn���t wake up with any answers���I guess I���ll try again tonight, if I don���t solve it during my writing today. On the plus side, I didn���t have a bunch of dreams I remembered on waking, which for me is heaven. I don���t feel like I���ve slept well if I feel like I���ve been up and running around all night. This is the first night in months I���ve woken refreshed.)


Ana: Zoe–too lazy to bother with dreams. The question thing didn���t work for me, but I only tried once.


Kate: I should try that.


Zoe: At the very least, I have my question jotted down on a note, so I���ll keep thinking on it every time I shuffle through my stickies.


Kate: Writing out questions helps me figure things out. I���m very verbal, so I have to actually say or write a question before my brain turns on.


Ana: I do that, too, Kate. I have a ton of notepads just for talking to myself and never reading it again. Is anyone keeping a running outline?


Zoe: Not me. I���ll do a synopsis at some point, like he suggests in a later chapter, but no running outline. Feels stifling.


Kate: I���d like to try one someday, but not at this moment. Of course, the story I���m currently wrestling with is short enough I can hold the whole thing in my head. When I get back to Knight, it might be a different story.


Ana: How long is Knight?


Kate: At last count, 95K and climbing.


Ana: Nice.


Kate: It���s a good size, there���s a lot of story in there.


Ana: 90k has been my upper limit so far.


Zoe: I���ve pushed close to 100K, but I prefer not to go over. It���s a lot more work, revising (and even writing) those big books! I���m shooting for around 50K with the WIP.


Kate: I really want to break up the werewolf one into three novellas, but I don���t think LI will let me.


Ana: I���ll be revising my 90k book in a few months��� Not really looking forward to it! (It���s already kind of broken up. The ���prequel��� is 70k. There may be another book in the series, but I���m not sure about that yet.)


Kate: That���s going to need a chunk of time.


The last thing Bell talks about is critique groups. I really like mine, though I���ve been inactive in it for the past year, what with work and life and stuff. But the support has been a big boost for me, especially when I���m feeling iffy about a work.


Zoe: I recognized myself somewhat in the quote from Robin Lee Hatcher. I really need to do the creative process alone. I���m not ready for anyone to see anything until it���s a few drafts in, until I get to the point where I���m like, ���Okay, what am I not able to see for myself?��� And then I go to beta readers instead of a group, because…I���m just more comfortable with the one-to-one thing, with giving drafts to them at separate times.


Ana: I���m with Zoe on that I prefer one-on-one feedback/critique over public execution, but I don���t mind sharing early drafts or incomplete things��� probably because I started out by posting incomplete first drafts on the internet.


Kate: The critique group tends to keep me on schedule. We have an upload every week, I try to upload every two weeks, and you HAVE to upload every month. Plus, the practice going through someone else���s manuscript and explaining why something didn���t work is good for going back and revising my own work.


Zoe:: Editor deadlines keep me on schedule. (Which reminds me; I need to get with my editor about when he���ll need my current WIP so I have a deadline for it.)


Kate: I love deadlines.


Ana: I need more deadlines. This self-discipline thing is hard.


Zoe: It���s for the birds! ;)


Kate: Not this bird. Especially since our next topic is ���The First Read-Through���. Strikes terror in the heart.


Zoe: I don���t like sharing incomplete drafts because everyone has their suggestions and ideas for where the story should go, and I can���t hear those until I���ve gotten down what I want the story to be. Ooh, the first read through! I���m always excited about that. We should talk about that chapter. :)


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