These ideas about education need to be in the public discourse

These ideas about education need to be in the public discourse.

Here they are, from me.

The primary responsibility for a child's education lies with the parent's ability to make the child care about education. A motivated child will prosper even with a below-average teacher. Children don't do well in school these days mainly because they don't value school but see it as an obstacle to their pleasure in life.

While there are some poorly-performing teachers, they are a very small minority, probably a smaller number than the number of poorly-performing people in the general workforce.

Economics are an undeniable factor in school performance. To make kids better at school, improve the economy. Improve the nationwide standard of living; get people out of poverty. When parents are home at night and kids have food and clothes and don't have to get jobs, school performance will improve.

It is not necessary for education to be standardized, with every child being taught the same way. Every child should have a variety of teachers with different approaches and personalities, which is reflective of the variable and even chaotic experience the child will have out of school. As long as every teacher has skills and is not a bumbling incompetent, it should work out on the average.

Independent thinking and reasoning skills are necessary, but kids who care about their education will develop them by osmosis not only by seeing teachers demonstrate them, but by seeing THEIR PARENTS demonstrate them.

Children don't learn in terms of discrete packets, but in wildly varied ways. A child may not grasp something until years after it is taught, or may get it only after failing a test. Some children can't test well. Using testing as the dominant determination of student learning is an abomination for students. Using it to measure teachers' job performance is a cynical gimmick.

The standard classroom arrangement, with desks in rows and the teacher delivering content or giving silent work, is preferred by most students and works better. When assigned to learn on their own in groups, most students shut down or goof off. There are classrooms with kids who do better in that scenario and are lively, but they are unusual. You can't expect such peak classroom performances to become the norm.

The goal of educating students should not be to prepare them for corporate and office jobs. Not everyone belongs in that sort of job. In the present system, we are trying to train them to do analytical reasoning at a complex level, but not teaching them practical skills like cooking, typing, or balancing a checkbook.

It should not be necessary to go to college in order to get ready for a job. College is for people who are good at more complex learning tasks. People who aren't at ease performing such tasks should receive another sort of career professional training. Somewhere down the line, politicians or the media have confused two ideas. One, the correct one, is that college should be open to everyone, meaning that it shouldn't be closed to lower classes, minorities, or women. The other, the incorrect one, is that because college graduates make more money, everyone must be a college graduate. That isn't necessary! All you need is to have training schools for jobs that also make more money. The liberal arts curriculum is a waste of time for people whose personalities aren't suited to absorbing it. In present conditions, colleges are turning out large numbers of unemployable graduates. The job market can't accommodate a situation in which all Americans have college degrees and expect office jobs. That's ridiculous.

Teachers should have secure jobs because when their jobs are threatened, they don't perform well. Teachers should have secure jobs because they undergo large amounts of training and preparation for a moderate- to low-paying profession and are subject to the vagaries of chance in terms of the classroom. Teachers should have secure jobs because on the whole, excepting a few villains, they care about children and do extra to care for them. It's a profession that serves society and that has the potential for inherent nobility.

Detailed lesson plans are just paperwork. Some teachers need more detail than others, depending upon how their minds work. It also varies from lesson to lesson, day to day, class to class. The focus on lesson plans and unit plans and other such stuff is really about accountability, which is a corporate concept. It doesn't make sense in education.
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Published on March 10, 2014 13:59 Tags: college, education, teacher-evaluation, teachers, teaching
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message 1: by K.A. (new)

K.A. Jordan "Independent thinking and reasoning skills are necessary, but kids who care about their education will develop them by osmosis not only by seeing teachers demonstrate them, but by seeing THEIR PARENTS demonstrate them."

But if their parents are able to think independently, the kids won't learn. We have multiple generations of mind-wiped citizens who know nothing but to buy the most popular whatever - which means working for Corporate Amerika.

Until just this year it was nearly impossible to get health insurance except via Corporate Amerika.

It will take at least a generation to get the 'new Middle Class' (small business owners) working for themselves.


message 2: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Roberts New ideas? How can we discuss new ideas when there are much older, better done ideas that have been tossed out by the Federal run Department of Education?

Here is something for you to see.

http://www.bullittcountyhistory.com/b...

Go ahead, look over that 8th grade exam from 1912. Can you pass it? Can 8th graders pass it today? If not, then what was so superior about that 100+ year ago education as compared to today, besides not having the Federal Government screw it up?

Also, did you notice the section there that isn't taught today at all, when it should be? Hint...local government stuff... can you pass that section as well?

We don't teach the right things anymore. We haven't for a long time, and Progressives love it. Why? Every new batch of graduates are new voters, and the less they know, the more gullible they are at the voting booth. There's the motive right there for dumbing down America. Read today's news. It's working.


message 3: by Matt (new)

Matt Posner Why are you blaming ignorance at the voting booth upon progressives? All politicians benefit from it. I did look over that test. There is nothing difficult on it -- it mostly focuses on rote memorization. Government classes are taught here in New York City with a full explanation of how the government is supposed to work.

This whole kerfuffle is not really about the kids and their education. That's a red herring. The real goal is corporate money-making. The corporations are making money issuing bonds to charter schools as well as administering them. Additionally, breaking teacher's unions continues the process of exterminating the middle class and concentrating wealth in the upper class so that the United States can be a third-world country. The world's most populous version of Venezuela, coming right up. In New Orleans, there are now NO PUBLIC SCHOOLS, only charter schools, and the teacher's union was eliminated because there is no place for unionized workers to be employed. Twentysomethings in Teach for America took most of the jobs. In California, teacher tenure has been removed by the courts. I don't know how many teachers have been fired since, but how much would you bet they will go after the highest-paid ones first?


message 4: by Daniel (new)

Daniel Roberts Matt, I'm blaming Progressives because they are the instigators. Of course both political parties benefit. There are Progressive Democrats and Progressive Republicans. Most folks in the political arena call them DINO and RINO, respectively. Democrat In Name Only and Republican In Name Only.

From the early 90's to today, both parties have had a number of internal fights. Actual party line vs Progressives who are calling themselves a part of the party. Whenever one party or the other gains a majority victory in both the house and senate, why is it they never 'repeal' the previous party's law they fought so hard to defeat, and lost?

I'm not going off topic, but these are things one has to consider before looking towards the Department of Education. Please bear with me. I'm not arguing, I'm trying to share facts that support the truth of the matter which supports our current situation... on all levels, including education. I will get to the Corporations after that.

Joe Biden is the original author of the Patriot Act... in the mid-90's. They could not get it pushed through because the seats in both parties had a high non-Progressive number. Not enough votes to even get out of committee.

Bill Clinton gets elected. He's a Progressive Democrat. He repealed the Glass-Steagal Act that allowed Wall Street to return to the same lending schemes that helped start the 1929 Depression. Bear with me.

Bush got elected. Bad news. Progressive Republican. They liked to call themselves Neo-Cons back then. (New Conservatives) It was a sham. Neo-Con was just another label for Progressive. Upon Bush's second re-election, even though he campaigned on limited taxes and smaller government, he did just the opposite. That proved he was a RINO, something people like myself knew from Day One when he was nominated to run for President.

When 9/11 hit, they had their tragedy that was big enough to push the Patriot Act. Understand, they removed 'American Militia' and replaced it with 'Domestic Terrorism' - which now gives the original meaning for Patriot Act. It was never about stopping terrorism, but spying on and controlling information about Constitutionally minded Americans.

Why would a Republican push a Democrat authored agenda that is designed to collapse freedom, including laws that helped kill our economy? Simple. If they knock it all down, they can rebuild it into that they want. What they want is a form of Socialism/Communism.

That's why Bush passed a 7 Billion Stimulus at the end of his final year, and Obama passed a 7 Billion Year Stimulus in his first year. In case you didn't know, Obama is also a Progressive Democrat. Joe got chosen as his VP because he is being rewarded for getting the Patriot Act planted into law. It came later than they wanted, but come it did.

To the victor goes the spoils. Or so it's said.

Now about those 'Corporations' you failed to name. I know which ones are in bed with the Progressives, and which ones aren't. All you need to do to identify them is to see who is outsourcing to other countries and leaving America, and those who are staying and doing their best to keep Americans working. Those who are leaving...Progressive owned. Those who are staying, are fighting the IRS for their very survival on a yearly basis.

The Department of Education didn't get their own offices, their teeth, as one might say, until 1980. The required votes, barely passing via a hidden Progressive membership at the time, passed in 1979.

Woodrow Wilson was the first Progressive to land in a High Office. He was one of the most racist monsters that ever walked the Earth inside a sack of human skin. In 1913, there was something called the 100 year plan. That plan was intended to keep America going down the Progressive path.

Saul Alinksy was also a Progressive, and he wrote a book they all pretty much swear by, called Rules for Radicals. The print version, not the remastered ebook version that is available today, has a passage in the beginning, praising Lucifer as the first one to gain a kingdom through dissent. Anybody who reads that book today, as it was written many decades ago, will see a distinct, obvious parallel with what is happening today.

The Department of Education in 1980, started trumpeting to states, to teachers to parents, that Federal Law trumps State Law. They went from 'nudge and push' to 'shove it down their throats' in the 1980's, and the slow slide in quality of education turned into a waterfall of doom.

Today, there are a lot of Professors who are teaching college to new teachers, now that the older, more wise teachers, are being done away with. Those new teachers are instructing new voters, and using anti-capitalism as their vehicle.

Ever see the short animation that has been peddled to those youth, called the 'Story of Stuff'? They blame the corporations for the evils of a modern society.

Think of it as Palpatine from Star Wars using minions to collapse the Republic from within. Progressives are running their corporations off-shore, knowing when the collapse they're working for hits, they'll retain their material value and be in a prime position to 'fundamentally change America' into a better society.

All in that time, the rest of us here, will suffer that end game, and sooner rather than later. The battle between Republicans and Democrats is nothing more than a show, a sleight of hand. Watch this tension. See the public react. Don't be looking at what we're really trying to pull.

NAFTA, CAFTA, everything they've been doing to send our jobs overseas is tied to making America more poverty stricken. Offer an education that pits the citizens against what used to work, so they'll vote in even more Progressive agendas, and those of us who know what's going on are called kooks, conspiracy theorists and tin-hat wearers.

After all, Alinsky did teach the Progressives that strategy. If they can't win, if they can't provide facts to prove their position, then resort to name calling, insulting, but staying relative to the topic.

Example - Parent: Common core is teaching bad subjects, using idealism instead of a functional process to get the lessons across.

Common Core Advocate: You must want our children to fail. You must hate your own kids. You're an idiot.

When the lesson is finally revealed, they are teaching that 1 + 2 = 3 by saying that when Daddy's Boyfriend moves in with Mommy, that makes 3 adults in the house, and everybody is happy and caring with each other.

It wasn't until 2011 that Texas finally won the lawsuit to remove the FELONY punishment for revealing Common Core Materials to parents at home, which removed that penalty from all states that signed on with it.

Before it was common core, the educational agenda was called No Child Left Behind. Before that it was called... well, let's just say they change the name often, and on purpose. Every time they change the name, they make it more radical. The Communist Manifesto that they are following relies on destroying the family unit and education as a necessary step to changing a country's ideals, and by removing any moral center by attacking and destroying religion.

Progressives saturate every aspect of our living, and turn it on its head on purpose. If you're dealing with education issues, hating the wrong corporations as they want you to lump them in all the same group, fighting racism, fighting religion, dealing with partisan politics that are only a puppet show, then where will anyone find the time and energy to stop the Progressives from crashing the system?

You think things in education are bad now? With the economy? This is just the tip of the iceberg, and the United States of America is the new Titanic on the block. It's only a matter of time before the shit hits the fan.


message 5: by Matt (last edited Jul 01, 2014 02:55PM) (new)

Matt Posner Too much for me to take on in toto, so I'll just make a few remarks.
It seems like you have your own definition of the term "progressive."
I'm a fan of Howard Zinn and certainly influenced by his view of the political parties as two pseudo-opponents actually maintaining status quo by pretending to create change. This idea seems to have influenced you as well, so we agree there.
The term communism is still used to scare people, but very few individuals (especially among U.S. conservatives) know what it actually means. It's obsolescent, I think; real communism is idealistic, not practical, and even supposedly communist governments like China are actually dictatorships with a more realpolitik perspective.


message 6: by Daniel (last edited Jul 01, 2014 03:47PM) (new)

Daniel Roberts Apologies Matt. I didn't mean to go overboard. I consider you a friend. As such, I can over-share, quite unintentionally.

The term Communism should terrify people. Considering how many people died from Communism in the early to mid-20th century, between Stalin and Chairman Mao (Chinese Communist Revolutionary), both combined made Hitler seem like a dumb amateur. Stalin alone surpassed Hitler's kill count, big time.

Stalin and Mao both called it back then, what the Progressives call it today, eerily enough. Redistribution of Wealth. Once the people were disarmed, the military, under orders, redistributed their wealth very aggressively. Following orders and all that. Every scrape of food was taken away, at gunpoint.

Stalin's Count: Between 12 and 14 Million, only 7 Million verified, but the locals reported that there was double that, the early deaths that got buried by the survivors, before they died themselves, with nobody left to bury them.

Chairman Mao's Count: 70 Million. 38 Million verified, the remainder of the count was burned by locals, as described by the countryside peasants, to ward off disease.

I know a woman with a Master's degree in History ending up in tears, because she paid top dollar for the Ivy League education, and was never taught this. She found out when she did her own homework on the topic.


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