Two radio appearances...one day

I have two radio appearances on Thursday, January 30:

I'll be appearing on "The Dolly McCarthy Show" for my Good Inspirations segment near the end of the show talking about this week's surfing adventure (or more like non-adventure as it has gone!) and what "getting past the breaks" means in surfing and life. The show starts at 9:30 AM Central Time and can be accessed here.

I'm also appearing on the Archbishop's Hour on radio in New Mexico tomorrow talking about my work around divorced and separated people. You can listen at 12:00 PM Mountain Time (repeated at 6 PM) on 98.9 FM or live stream it at www.ihradio.org by searching for the same Albuquerque station.