An open letter to Goodreads.

(At the request of people in this thread about the recent policy changes at Goodreads, I'm reposting my comment here.)

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Dear Goodreads,

I have been a registered reviewer on your site since 2010, and was a lurker long before then. In July of this year, I became a Goodreads author when I self-published. When your company was bought by Amazon, I felt the same trepidation and dismay that many other GR users felt: we worried that Amazon's influence would corrupt Goodreads, a site driven by and for readers, and turn it into yet another marketing platform for authors. We worried that there would be no bastion of legitimate, non-commercial book reviews left aside from individual blogs. Amazon's relatively hands-off approach with GR had begun to soothe my fears about corporate parenting...until now.

This may shock you, but even though I'm an author, I still read all the time--as all authors should. And I rely on reviewers to guide my book choices. Reviewers like Steph Sinclair, whose reviews and shelves were deleted without notice. Reviewers like Emily May and Wendy Darling, who are now reconsidering their participation on this site.

And I rely on countless lesser-known reviewers who take the time to review the books they've read--people who review in the good faith that their contributions won't be summarily deleted without warning, or a chance to adjust to your new guidelines. Oftentimes I'm the first person to hit the Like button on a thoughtful, carefully written review that's been sitting in quiet obscurity on your site for years. Sometimes the reviewer replies to a comment I've made years after the original review, and we chat. That's an amazing thing. That's the ongoing conversation that is fiction.

And you guys just barged into that conversation and started slapping duct tape over people's mouths.

Look, deleting those reviews and shelves without notice was wrong. Period. That's not how you Community, guys. When you have a problem with the way the community is using your site, you talk to them about it. You begin a dialogue. You explain the problem and ask for solutions. When you implement a solution, you give users a grace period to adjust--to decide if they want to continue using your site, and if not, to back up their work and take it elsewhere.

You dropped that ball hard, guys. You owe the GR community an apology, and a promise to NEVER summarily delete our content again, if you ever hope to rebuild trust. Let the fact that you've lost some prominent reviewers for good stay your itchy trigger finger in the future.

But the greater problem remains: is this policy change actually helping anyone?

Abuse and bullying should never be tolerated on a community site, no matter which direction it flows from. But just like author Nathan Bransford in his spectacularly ill-informed post, you are misinterpreting legitimate criticism and cataloging as "bullying" and "abuse."

I think we can all agree that a shelf like "author-should-be-raped" should never be permitted on this site. But I have yet to actually see such a shelf. It seems that when shelves like these actually pop up on GR, the mods remove them quickly, as they should. However, there's a lot of hearsay from overly sensitive authors who misinterpret shelves (and GIFs, and star ratings) as personal threats, and I believe that's what's driving your decision to disallow author-centric shelves and reviews.

Well, I have a huge problem with that, Goodreads. Because as a reader, I have zero desire to contribute financially to misogynists, homophobes, racists, pedophiles, and other reprehensible human beings. And your new policy disallowing discussion of authors' real life behavior is preventing that. I want to be informed if the author whose book I'm considering purchasing supports causes and ideologies that conflict with my values. I don't care if the author thinks that's "mean." A public figure--as all authors are--is subject to scrutiny. It is not "bullying" to call out a public figure who promotes hateful causes. It is not "abuse" to point out that a reactionary author attacks her reviewers. That's public information about a public figure, and it is relevant to those interested in the author's books.

Your new policy is also really vague and hypocritical. Does it apply to living authors only? What about deceased authors? You do realize the literary canon is pretty much full of racist, sexist, privileged Dead White Dudes, right? So can we no longer discuss Joseph Conrad's racism in context of Heart of Darkness? Or John Updike's sexism? How about T.S. Eliot and Roald Dahl's anti-Semitism? What about the fact that Walt Whitman faked his own reviews? And geez, you may as well delete Mein Kampf from the site right now, considering it's nigh-impossible to discuss it without referring to its author, aka The Worst Human Being Ever. (Oh, shit. I just called out an author. SORRY, HITLER.) (Not actually sorry. Fuck Hitler.)

Are you starting to see the silliness of your policy change yet?

Goodreads, what you've done is being seen by many people as catering to offended authors at the expense of readers. Listen to the messages above (and those on social media, and blogs, and everywhere on the internet this week): your users feel betrayed. We feel like you're promoting an Us vs. Them mentality that will only further divide the community, and exacerbate the small pockets of hostility that exist between authors and reviewers. Yes, by all means, when actual bullying and abuse occurs, handle it. But you need some SERIOUS perspective adjustment on what actual bullying and abuse entails. Because right now you are starting to sound more and more like a certain "anti-bullying" site that, ironically, is itself an instrument of bullying. Who will need STGRB anymore when Goodreads itself fulfills their role?

Please note that I have used inclusive pronouns here: we, us, our. Because even though I'm a "published author" now, I was first and foremost a reader, and that is primarily how I continue to use this site: I read and review. And you are systematically making it less and less useful for that.

I believe Goodreads should remain true to its nature as a site driven by and for readers. You do not need to cater to me as an author. I don't want you to, your advertising and author programs honestly kinda suck, and I don't think you can successfully serve both groups. Please reconsider this change and your overall direction, and remember what made you the great site you are, and may yet remain:

Readers.

Sincerely,
Leah Raeder
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Published on September 23, 2013 13:02
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Sandi - Protester of Goofreads What I would expect from an author - intelligent & articulate.


message 52: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 23, 2013 03:21PM) (new)



just 'cause, awesome, you are. Thank you! <3


message 53: by Sarah (new)

Sarah It's refreshing to read your honesty Leah!


message 54: by E (new)

E + infinity


♣ Irish Smurfétté ♣ Everyone's said it: FANTABULOUS.


Sandi *~The Pirate Wench~* Bravo..well said 5 stars for your post!


message 57: by Duchess Nicole (new)

Duchess Nicole Well said, Leah.


message 58: by [deleted user] (new)

Perfection! :)


message 59: by Becca (new)

Becca Thank you for saying this.

You better believe I'll be reading your book now! ;)


message 60: by Becky (new)

Becky I wholeheartedly agree!


message 61: by Ash Wednesday (new)

Ash Wednesday Great awesome post Leah <3


Nemo (The ☾Moonlight☾ Library) You are my new favourite person. Thank you for adding your voice.


message 63: by Steve (new)

Steve Well said! This is the best response to the situation that I have read so far.


message 64: by Susan (new)

Susan Extremely well-written, well thought out post. Thank you for your intelligent explanation of the subtleties involved in an honest community like GR.


message 65: by Susan (new)

Susan GREAT point!


Leah wrote: "Thank you to everyone who's commented and liked this. ♥

@Stacey: "Reading social activism" - LOVE THIS. Hell to the yes.

It's going to be a HUGE issue when the Ender's Game movie comes out in Nov..."



message 66: by Mitzi (new)

Mitzi You stated my sentiments exactly! Thank You!!!


Awilk -never sleeps- Well said Leah. I wish all author's were as sincere and as talented as you.
If, as a reader, I can't say when I don't like a book, what is the use of Goodreads. I thought it was so you could find books that you want to discuss and look for others that you may want to read, or want to ignore.


message 68: by Mike (new)

Mike Emily May wrote: "Hi again, Mike. As someone who was bullied every day for a long time, I take issue with the word "bullying" being used to describe calling out authors for their own bad behaviour and/or stating you..."

Hello, again. We do seem to run into each other a lot in these debates, don't we?

That's an interesting story, but I disagree. I don't think an author's personal beliefs should be included in a review, unless those beliefs come through in the book. Calling Hitler an anti-Semite asshole in a review of Mein Kampf certainly shouldn't be censored, because Mein Kampf is about his prejudices - I do indeed disagree with that part. But talking about Orson Scott Card's homophobia is irrelevant because, based on my understanding, his views don't come through in the book.

The social context of the book is only relevant when it becomes apparent in the book itself. To say that you don't support people reading a book because the author is homophobic, liberal, sexist, feminist, ect. is, in part, saying that the author has to be someone you like and agree with in order for you to enjoy his/her book. And to say that you wish for a boycott for those reasons is to say that the author has to be someone you like/agree with in order for anyone to enjoy his/her books. That, in my opinion, shouldn't be what a review is about, because at that point, does the book really matter? It may to some extent, but the book has to be the large factor, not the author.

Maybe it's just a personal preference that makes up the difference. I care very little about an author's personal life when reading their book - it just doesn't feel relevant. Maybe because I feel like it would cut me off from books I enjoy if I found out about these things. But I wouldn't write a review criticizing the author for something that didn't come through in one of their books, which is why I'm less mad than others about the censorship of such reviews.

And sorry about the misuse of the word 'bullying' - I've been a victim of homophobic bullying myself, so I hate to have offended someone who went through something similar.


message 69: by Mike (new)

Mike Tom wrote: "One of Mike's recent comments: "I honestly feel a little sorry for Klein. Based on my interactions with her, she seems like a nice person who deserves to be respected as an author. But if she's goi..."

My mistake - I see what you're talking about now. The difference is that what I wrote was a status update, not a review. I would never put something like that in a review - my status updates tend to be a lot looser. (Plus, my personal opinion of the author didn't affect my opinion of the book a goddamned bit, in contrast to what GR is censoring.)


message 70: by Leslie (new)

Leslie Hooray for Leah! She says it real good!!!


message 71: by Emily May (new)

Emily May I disagree. I think all books change depending on your perspective and, while you may choose not to, a reviewer is not making irrelevant comments when considering the influence of the author's personal life on the book and vice versa when it comes to the financial side. A book is not just a story, it's not just words, it's a product and there are many factors to consider.

Orson Scott Card's homophobia is relevant to me (and many others). I appreciate that it may not be relevant to you, but it appalls me that without goodreads that man may have received money from me (even the obviously small amount it would be). I suppose the question is: what is a review? If it's an opinion piece, then it's fine to give your opinion of the author. If it's to help others decide where to spend their hard-earned cash, then it's relevant to inform them that Card finances many homophobic projects. I actually can't think of a single case where you should mention the art but it would be inappropriate to talk about the artist.

Oh, and you asked in your original post where goodreads claimed to be a community, so here you go: https://www.goodreads.com/jobs

Note: I apologise if any of this post doesn't make sense. It's nearly 3am where I am and I really should be asleep :)


Sandi - Protester of Goofreads Emily May wrote: "I disagree. I think all books change depending on your perspective and, while you may choose not to, a reviewer is not making irrelevant comments when considering the influence of the author's pers..."

Yup, and this is exactly why I don't want to contribute my dollars to people who have values I find objectionable. I don't challenge their right to their opinions, or expressing them. I simply don't want to support them. And the reviews give me a lot of this type of info that is much appreciated.


message 73: by Mona (new)

Mona Thank you so much for writing this! This makes me feel the love for books and the reviewing community all over again, and I'll always support it, even if it ceases to be on Goodreads. I sure hope Goodreads goes back to the way it was though, because here is where I really nurtured my bookish loves for the first time.


message 74: by Leah (new)

Leah Randolph wrote: "A lot of you are talking to the wrong people. GR doesn't care about you unless you are an author. You need to be bombarding Amazon and boycotting Amazon. GR is just a subsidiary of Amazon and th..."

Actually, Randolph, the discussion here on Goodreads is getting noticed by the media at large:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/c...


Mai is a Happy Bibliophile Excellent words Leah! <3

And yeah, Goodreads should also listen to the readers. We review to express our feelings and opinions. Just because some authors can't take criticism with grace, you'll take it out on your loyal users.


message 76: by L.E. (new)

L.E. Thank you, Leah. You said what needed to be said :)


message 77: by Ailene♥ (new)

Ailene♥ Very well said!!! I'm now your fan! :)


message 78: by Sandi - Protester of Goofreads (last edited Sep 23, 2013 07:50PM) (new)

Sandi - Protester of Goofreads Leah wrote: "Randolph wrote: "A lot of you are talking to the wrong people. GR doesn't care about you unless you are an author. You need to be bombarding Amazon and boycotting Amazon. GR is just a subsidiary..."

Oh yea, that kind of publicity will make more of an impression on GR & Amazon than we will.

Just a PS: I wish they would have referenced Leah's letter.


message 79: by Julie (new)

Julie Amen!! Thank you for stating what was on my mind!


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message 81: by Jason (new)

Jason Leah wrote: "More media coverage:

http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/g..."



brilliant! i saw a lot of it hit twitter, facebook etc. we need more readers writing stuff, though... putting it out where it cant be deleted.


message 82: by Jason (new)

Jason Sandi wrote: "Leah wrote: "Randolph wrote: "A lot of you are talking to the wrong people. GR doesn't care about you unless you are an author. You need to be bombarding Amazon and boycotting Amazon. GR is just..."


Amazon is too big to boycott.. what we need is public awareness, outcries... we are too little in numbers to decrease the money they make on amazon.com.. but with CNN picking this up maybe a few of us could submit some op-eds... at least to online sources?!


message 83: by Susanna - Censored by GoodReads (last edited Sep 23, 2013 11:39PM) (new)

Susanna - Censored by GoodReads CNN got the wrong angle on their story. Failed to do their research, very sloppy.


message 84: by [deleted user] (new)

Outstanding! :-)


message 85: by Jason (new)

Jason Susanne but its getting attention.... However wrong it is. Just means we gotta get out voice out there more.


message 86: by [deleted user] (new)

Beautifully stated Leah. You've expressed all our sentiments in a totally decent and dignified way.

*Applauds*


Susanna - Censored by GoodReads Yeah, I was just raised around journalism, hate seeing it done sloppily.


message 88: by Jason (new)

Jason Oh and it was sloppy. Sided with Amazon, no surprise there.


message 89: by Courtney (new)

Courtney There are not enough cookies in the world to feed you. There are not enough episodes of 30 Rock to fill you with joy. There are not enough of your favorites books in the world to read to you. There are not enough burritos to fill your stomach with heavenly bliss.

There is not enough thanks to give to you for writing this well-written, articulated reply. Thanks a million.


message 90: by Nitzan (new)

Nitzan Schwarz Utterly wonderful post. You're incredible.


Karma♥Bites ^.~ Further to Leah's post & link in MSG #76 upthread, this line gave me a much-needed laugh:

“Hell hath no correctly punctuated fury like a book nerd scorned.”


(altho, the writer herself missed a hyphen ^.^)


message 92: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 24, 2013 03:52AM) (new)

Brilliant blog-post, Leah. You have obviously caught the general feeling on GR perfectly, and summed it up beautifully.

Goodreads, like all privately owned social websites, was always a despotism, and like all despotisms, contains the seeds of tyranny: perhaps we shouldn't be too surprised that the benevolent despot has gone and a less benevolent one has taken their place.


message 93: by Brian (new)

Brian Over 500 likes? Wow, just... wow.


Hopefully Otis et al will pay attention and take the time to read.


(Also blows a VERY large hole in the claims made by those people at the-site-that-shall-not-be-named that this policy is only hated by 'a small group fo trolls/bullies'....)


message 94: by [deleted user] (last edited Sep 24, 2013 04:14AM) (new)

I think of us more as hobbits than trolls. At the moment it feels like the Shire has been invaded by orcs.

I am now assiduously backing up my reviews on my PC. I should always have been doing it, of course, but now it seems critical.


message 95: by Dominic (new)

Dominic King Does writing a book mean that person is suddenly a public figure? Am I now a public figure? Open to the same scrutiny as an elected official? Should I sit back as people, trolls and all, mock not just my work, but me as a person? It's a chilling thought. Perhaps that is the risk authors run. We need to grow a pretty thick skin in these days of instant, digital feedback.

Authors cannot divorce the producer from the product novel (or else criticism would not hurt so much) so it is understandable that readers cannot either. After all, reviews drive sales. But should a poor review of a novel include a character assassination?

Perhaps the industry is going the same way of sports and pop music. That's a pretty sad indictment for modern society.


message 96: by Jo (new)

Jo Whoa, just perfectly put! :D


message 97: by Char (new)

Char Well said, Leah! Bravo!


message 98: by Leah (new)

Leah Dominic wrote: "But should a poor review of a novel include a character assassination?"

"Character assassination" is one of those loaded legal terms that laypeople (I'm including myself here) tend to use subjectively.

Discussing the public behavior and views an author has expressed is not character assassination.

Digging into the personal life of a reviewer and publically posting private information in an attempt to discredit, intimidate, and silence the reviewer is definitely character assassination.

I have yet to see an author actually character-assassinated on GR. Discussions of authors revolve around their public statements and behavior.

The problem usually comes when authors don't realize that the internet is public. Tweets are public. Comments on reviews and blogs are public. Public Facebook posts are, surprise, public! When an author makes a statement in one of these venues, they are saying something publically.

(For contrast, not public: personal email, phone calls, text messages.)

I think a lot of the BBA drama springs from this presumption of privacy by internet-unsaavy authors. They don't seem to realize that they're saying something publically and permanently when they tweet or comment.


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Gesa Hope the hear you... I really do.


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Mandy I knew you were awesome before this post...but you're even more AWESOMER (totally made that up) now.


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