Did we really 'win' in Iraq? Tom doesn't think so -- and neither does General Dubik

The other day a couple of commenters discussing
innovation in the military mentioned one change (fwiw, the company-level
intelligence cell) as a big reason why "we won in Iraq."

Hmm, I thought: Did we actually win that war? I am not sure.
It doesn't feel like it. Yes, we got out with our shirts on. But win?

I thought about this again when I read this thoughtful comment by Lt. Gen. James
Dubik in the May issue of ARMY magazine:

America is confusing "withdrawing from a war" with "ending a
war." The two are very different. A war ends when strategic objectives are met
or an enemy is defeated and recognizes its defeat. In Iraq, the war continues
-- albeit at a level that the Iraqi security forces are, so far, able to handle
and the Iraqi government can manage.