Editing is the punishment for writing

There are writers who love editing. I'm not one of them. I have a friend who claims that the editing part is when the book happens that she had in her mind, as the draft/s before are just "raw material". I wish I had that disposition. I'm a one-draft writer. I may tinker and tighten and expand as I go from first draft (V.1) over several versions (V.1.1, V1.2...) to the draft I submit (V.2), and I rarely have much stuff left to deal with, because my first draft is *the* draft. I rewrite and edit as I write (which is one of the reasons why I'm physically unable to write 5k or 10k a day), and work in feedback from my test readers and peers, but generally speaking, it's rare that I rewrite a great deal.

And then my delusions of grandeur ("I'm a strong self-editor") hit reality in the shape of a hardcore editor. Riptide employs nothing but hardcore people. Incursion really became a totally different beast under Kristen's (and Rachel's) care, and my new story, Skybound, which I'm editing right now, is changing in subtle ways as Tiffany and Rachel challenge everything that's not totally watertight. Once a good editor went through the text, I feel like a bloody beginner, a complete greenhorn.

Could I really be repeating "face" fifteen times on a single page? Could I really have five hands involved in a sex scene, even though we only have two guys in bed? The answer is usually yes. At some point, I get blind to the text, and then shit goes wrong, and that's when an editor catches me out before a reviewer catches me out and tells the world what a lazy idjit I am. Seriously, editors are my last line of defence against disgruntled reviewers and readers. Opening up my edits from Riptide is always a test of faith and courage. As I scroll through the thousand comments and all the bits where I've been an idjit on the page, my heart sinks and I need a strong drink. Coffee, because it's going to be a long night.

Skybound is special, because it's short, and it's dense, with metaphors and images and meaning layered on top of each other in one tight, poetic package, and tinkering even with a sentence feels like it affects the whole. At just over 13k words, it does. Stories that are that short are much more like poems. As a friend who writes everything from novels to haikus once said: A novel can survive one bad chapter, a novella can survive a bad scene, but a short story really suffers from one bad sentence, and one bad word can kill a poem. I've found that to be very true (the reason why I don't write poetry? I'm not good enough to crystallise so much meaning into such a small space).

Skybound is like that short story. Editing this feels like brain surgery. It's going to be a tough sell in any case, so I'm working hard to get it just right, knowing that's impossible. But my editors at least nudge me into the right direction.


In vaguely related news, the co-project is moving along, my penicillin course is done (and funnily enough, once the pills were done I became productive again - maybe my Muse manifests as little bacteria in my blood - kill too many of them and I'm simply not writing...), I feel a great deal more perky. I've also started something short for the Blood in the Boardroom call from Riptide (I HAVE to, I already flaked out of the Warriors of Rome call) that, I hope, readers and fans of Special Forces are going to enjoy.

But now I have to tackle the last 15 pages of Skybound. 
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Lisa Arbitrary - AttentionIsArbitrary M/M Blog Great, so now when we take antibiotics we're killing midi-chlorians, thereby weakening the Force?

So glad you're feeling better and writing voraciously, it sounds.
:D

Curious, are your editors expected to fact check also? Particularly in respect to your historical novel.


message 2: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov LOL - I'm pretty sure *my* midi-chlorians have taken a hit, yes. Maybe yours are stronger. It would be interesting to do a study on. :)

Ideally, we're handing stuff to editors who have an idea about the genre/time period. Although things go through so many hands, and our editors and proofers together make for an encyclopaedic skillset/knowledge base, we will likely catch stuff. (Also, you can usually tell quite quickly if an author has bothered to do their research properly.)


message 3: by mc (new)

mc Aleks, this was an interesting and timely post. When I was still writing fiction, I was generally happy when it was time to edit. Doesn't mean I was the perfect self-editor, just that the pruning process wasn't anything I despised.

The challenge was getting it down on paper in the first place. (How quaint. I said "paper.") That's like root canal...a very long session of root canal. I envy all of you block-less 5K a day writers! Good for you!

I was also taken with that quote by your friend. (I started with poetry, then moved into short, very short fiction, actually by your standards.) She is absolutely on the money!


message 4: by G.B. (new)

G.B. Gordon Amen, brother. All that brain torture with such minute results.


message 5: by Steve (new)

Steve "Once a good editor went through the text, I feel like a bloody beginner, a complete greenhorn."

Ah, but maybe the trick is thinking that editing comes from another part of the brain. It's pitch and catch. Most good writing is done with blinders on, full steam ahead, and the editor is the first, most intelligent and honest audience. Welcome the stings that heal.

Glad you're feeling better, Aleks, and looking forward to your Blood in the Boardroom short piece.


message 6: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov mc - I don't mind some of the editing (I can click "accept" for a comma or the correction of a typo all day long), but it's the bits that require rewriting and expanding ("be more precise", "what makes him do that?" "how would he know?"), especially if they reach through the whole manuscript. It's fiddly and hard and rustrating, especially when that means going through it three or four times (Rachel made me suffer during the Dark Soul edits - the books are so much better for it, but wow, hard work...).

Hah, I remember editing on paper. I still sometimes do. There's nothing quite like being able to write in the margins and let the red ink go wild. :)

And, yep. She'd argue haikus can be ruined by the wrong vowel or *sound*. That's a level of sophistication I'll never reach.

GB - Especially as you are now in edits, too, poor thing. :(

Steve - Yep. I welcome my editor as a not-friend who looks at what I did without caring one whit about my vanity of feelings. It's sobering, but very productive. And I love them for it, but sometimes the love is stronger when we're done. :) Re the Blood in the Boardroom piece - thanks. I'm currently getting to know the characters, but I think I know where it's going. Hope to finish in the next 5-8 weeks.


Laura (Kyahgirl) I'm glad you're feeling better. :-)

The only editing I do is on the school writings of my wildly imaginative teenaged daughter. I cringe because I see the nugget of pure gold in the story but there is a heck of a lot of sifting and polishing to do and I don't want to re-write the story in MY style. Being a teenager, she doesn't have the 'collaborative spirit' that you as as professional writer have so its a painful process requiring sensitivity, patience, and clarity. Exhausting!

I do so admire the work of a good editor in the books I buy. It can mean the difference between becoming a fan or abandoning an author or publishing house.

Looking forward to Skybound.


message 8: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Laura - Yes, it's a hard habit to build, and as a teenager, I was impervious to editing critique. It took, working with some very good print publishing editors to break me out of the defensive habit, for one. They *did* know things better than I did.

And - I totally agree. As an author, I will only ever
submit my stories to a publisher that takes editing very seriously. Riptide is the perfect fit for me - the editors won't let me get away with any of my bad habits. :)

Skybound will be ... interesting. It's very different. Incursion is about the twists and turns and plot, but Skybound is very much about voice and style, the bits where I'm most insecure, incidentally.


message 9: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry I LOVE editing! Editing is when someone with a sharper eye than mine comes in, pokes around, and forces me to do better. Editing is the process where that file on my computer suddenly starts to shape up and become a real book.

I always think of that advice to kill your darlings. A good editor is the one that lines your darlings up against the wall and hands you the loaded pistol. (Hmm. That may have sounded less crazy in my head.)

I really have five hands involved in a sex scene, even though we only have two guys in bed?

I once had an editor point out to me, "You know, if they're doing that, shouldn't they both be facing the same way?"
Whoops!

I'm glad you're feeling better, and I can't wait for Skybound.


message 10: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Lisa - it's a terrific attitude to have for any author. :) (Personally, I'm finding it an acquired taste, so I don't actually like the process, but I do like the result and I think editors are saints, dealing with our bruised egos and insecurities like that.)

And some of my darlings can live, but yeah, being able to put them against the wall and decide which one's biting the bullet is another mark of a pro. Ultimately, everything has to serve the story.


message 11: by [deleted user] (new)

I just finished a series where some of the darlings needed to be shot. And the author could have used Rachel's help with pacing (because she is awesome with that and it's a problem NONE of Riptide's books have). It would have turned a frustrating niche-y m/m read into a great mainstream quality fantasy. All the good stuff was there, it just needed to be carved out. So f***ing angry making to run into this kind of talent and find the author's appeal/audience limited because no one did the kind of tough love editing that was necessary.


message 12: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov I agree. I think Rachel's the best editor I've ever worked with. Editing-wise, Dark Soul stands head and shoulders above anything out there with my name attached.

I read an interesting bit about how "surrendering the ego" is part of critique (and editing is pretty much applied critique). There comes the point where the author's ego (and gods know mine is big) stands in the way of the work. An author must be humble enough to step out of the way and, above all, strangle those ego pangs when they come up. They are not helpful and are not a service to the reader.


message 13: by [deleted user] (new)

No one likes criticism, and writing is so intensely personal it has to feel like criticism of self when someone starts pointing out places that need improvement. Looking at it as "critique" is a good start. Finding a distance between yourself and what you wrote has to be the first step, doesn't it?

And yep Dark Soul is awesome. On lots of levels. :)


message 14: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Kate - it does. But the moment I ask for money, the writing is no longer just "mine", but a product. Doesn't mean I can't pour my heart blood into it, doesn't cheapen it, but at the moment I involve other people (who pay for something THEY want, not what I want), it's no longer just about me. :) And I think that "it's not about me, it's about the story" must begin in editing.

So it's a weird job, where you have to be totally confident and totally humble and totally driven and totally relaxed. And not everybody manages that all the time. :)


message 15: by Lisa (new)

Lisa Henry So it's a weird job, where you have to be totally confident and totally humble and totally driven and totally relaxed.

So true!


message 16: by TracyMN (new)

TracyMN Haha, more reasons to be glad I'm a Lab Technician.

The "survival" wisdom is priceless. Can't wait to pass it on.

"...that, I hope, readers and fans of Special Forces are going to enjoy."

I WILL, I WILL, I JUST KNOW IT!!!

Now, if someone would kindly tell me where the tool box is, I'd like to stop "shouting".

Tracy


message 17: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Tracy - Definitely doing my best. So far, there's Vadim in there, lots of Nikolai and some Anya. Obviously none of the other author's characters. But I can play with mine. :)


message 18: by [deleted user] (new)

Nikolai! Excellent. :)


message 19: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov I fear he's falling into a similar trap as his bio-dad. :) (Minus the hard-headed woman.)


message 20: by [deleted user] (new)

Tease. Oh you are such an evil tease. *growl*


message 21: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Hey, I thought that's what you pay me for? (Delivering on the teasing, not the tease, but the tease *is* part of it...)

Also, why haven't you read Incursion yet? *hits F5 again*


message 22: by Lenore (new)

Lenore Nikolai. Great.
But did I hear Vadim? Vadim??? I think I just whimpered.


message 23: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Yep. He's "Dad", so he's in there.


message 24: by [deleted user] (new)

Aleksandr wrote: "Hey, I thought that's what you pay me for? (Delivering on the teasing, not the tease, but the tease *is* part of it...)

Also, why haven't you read Incursion yet? *hits F5 again*"


Travelling, and it isn't on my Kindle. I could get it from Amazon with that instant gratification one-click thing, but I figured I'd throw a few extra pennies your way and get it from Riptide when I get home. But if you are going to wear out the f5 key on your computer.....


message 25: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Right now it's the office keyboard, so that's OK. It gets weird when I get on the tube. No internet on the iPhone for HALF AN HOUR.


message 26: by Lenore (new)

Lenore Shit. I forgot to read Incursion.


message 27: by [deleted user] (last edited Jul 09, 2012 08:19AM) (new)

Aleksandr wrote: "Right now it's the office keyboard, so that's OK. It gets weird when I get on the tube. No internet on the iPhone for HALF AN HOUR."

You live in LONDON. How can you have no internet on your commute???! Barbarians. Even the ferries here have wifi.

ETA: Save your f5 key. I'll be home Wednesday or Thursday, so instead of being one of the first reviewers I'll be trailing in at the end of the pack. Which makes it easier to steal someone else's smart words. :)


message 28: by TracyMN (new)

TracyMN Read Incursion today, loved it, loved the plot, the characters and the "stretch but still within reach" of many of the details.

I'll say no more here.

Except, of course, thank you for your effort, always.

Tracy


message 29: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Lenore - You can still fix that. :)

Kate - I know. Though we're getting wiFi for the Olympics. I guess they are trying to prove that London *is* a first-world city.

Tracy - Thanks! I always try to stay within the reach of "I can totally see that happening/being real", because the first reader who has to believe it is me. The slingshot drive is the furthest I've been, and that's just to fix the problem of faster-than-light travel. (While writing, I've had long discussions with my guy who did stellar mechanics? It's part of physics. Very crazy and involved stuff...)

And thanks for reading! Without readers, the words are just mute on the page.


message 30: by Lenore (new)

Lenore Aleksandr wrote: "Lenore - You can still fix that. :)"

Yeah. I'm fixing it after I finish the K.A. Mitchell I'm currently reading. Need something I can sink my teeth into.


message 31: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov Now that should be a good contrast. But I'm the same. I really enjoy jumping wildly from one flavour to the next. :)


message 32: by Lenore (new)

Lenore The greatest thing about vanilla is that it makes you appreciate dark chocolate so much more ;)


message 33: by Aleksandr (new)

Aleksandr Voinov 100% with you on that. :)


message 34: by TracyMN (new)

TracyMN I have what I call my "rock collection", bits of books that have impacted my life, so tangible I remember what, when, and where I found them, words that ring in ears clear as bells... words are truly "the fabric of our lives" (well, mine for sure, but I adopted that phrase from the genius ad for the cotton industry and saying "my life" would feel like stealing... LOL, yeah, there's a bunch of that kind of stuff in the bag, too) and I owe so much to authors, who put their work out for me to find; needless to say, the opportunity represented here was born long before the internet, in grateful hearts and rock collections too numerous to mention.

T.


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