DAVID TENSEN / DECENTER EVERYTHING
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In this conversation, David Tensen, Derek Turner and Jason Clark explore the evolving concept of elderhood in modern society, emphasizing the importance of intentional living and personal growth as we age. David speaks to the generational shifts that have led to a new understanding of maturity and the role of elders in guiding younger generations. The idea of decentering is introduced as a way to foster a more inclusive and compassionate approach to spirituality and community care, challenging traditional hierarchical structures.
The guys explore the themes of decentering various aspects of life, the evolution of the hero’s journey as we age, and the importance of authentic relationships and companionship. They discuss the concept of gerotranscendence, the necessity of self-sacrifice, and the idea of a ‘fat soul’ that embraces complexity. The dialogue emphasizes the need for elders in a rapidly changing world and the importance of inhabiting our current life stages while learning from the past. The conversation culminates in the establishment of the Collective Wisdom Academy, a space for shared learning and growth.
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Derek Turner lives in Charlotte, North Carolina. He has two daughters, Caroline & Kate. He has served as lead pastor for River Church Charlotte. Derek also is a regular co-host on the Rethinking God with Tacos podcast and loves to connect on all the socials. Derek believes “Love everyone the most” sums up what it means to be a follower of Jesus.
FollowFollowFollow Jason Clark is a relational theologian—a storyteller who writes to reveal the transforming kindness of the love of God. He has authored several books, including Leaving and Finding Jesus, & God Is (Not) In Control. He is the lead communicator at A Family Story and host of Rethinking God with Tacos PODCAST. He and his wife, Karen, live in North Carolina with their four children, Madeleine and Joseph, Ethan, and Eva. FollowFollowFollowFollowFollow SUPPORT THE PODCAST Join The Mailing List BUY NOW!
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