Regarding Audible

Regarding Audible

Hey, all. Brandon here, with what I consider to be some pretty exciting news. Many of you may remember when I wrote last year about my worries regarding audiobook royalties (particularly for independent authors). You can read it HERE, but some of the main bullet points are as follows:

I seriously worried about the opacity of reporting to authors about audio sales. We didn’t know what a sale meant, how much of an Audible credit was given to authors when a book sold via one, and how royalties were being accounted.I felt that the industry was taking advantage of authors because of their lack of powerful corporate interests to advocate for them. While video game creators and musicians get 70–80% (88%, in fact, on two major platforms) of a sale of their products in a digital platform, Audible was paying as low as 25%–with the high end being instead 40%.I felt I could have gotten a better deal for myself, but the entire state of this industry was seriously concerning to me. So, I made the difficult decision NOT to release the four Secret Projects on Audible, costing me a large number of sales, to instead try to bolster healthy competition in the space, highlighting some of the smaller Audible competitors.

I hoped this wake-up call would prompt change. I didn’t refuse to put my books on Audible out of retribution or to declare war; I did it because I wanted to shine as powerful a light as I knew how on a system that highly favored the audio distributors over the authors. I was convinced that the people at Audible really did love books and writers, and that with the right stand taken, I could encourage them toward positive change.

I’m happy to say that this stand has borne some fruit. I’ve spent this last year in contact with Audible and other audio distributors, and have pushed carefully–but forcefully–for them to step up. A few weeks ago, three key officers high in Audible’s structure flew to Dragonsteel offices and presented for us a new royalty structure they intend to offer to independent writers and smaller publishers.

This new structure doesn’t give everything I’ve wanted, and there is still work to do, but it is encouraging. They showed me new minimum royalty rates for authors–and they are, as per my suggestions, improved over the previous ones. Moreover, this structure will move to a system like I have requested: a system that pays more predictably on each credit spent, and that is more transparent for authors. Audible will be paying royalties monthly, instead of quarterly, and will provide a spreadsheet that better shows how they split up the money received with their authors.

This part looked really good to me, as I understand their decisions. I tried poking holes in the system, looking for ways it could be exploited, and found each issue I raised had already been considered. This doesn’t mean it’s going to be perfect, and people smarter than me might still find problems that I didn’t. However, I think everyone is going to agree the new system IS better. We will better be able to track, for example, how Audible is dividing money between books purchased with a credit and books listened to as part of their Audible Plus program.

It’s all very technical, but I have to say I’m impressed with the effort they have made. The people there listened to my complaints, and have tried to improve. I’m not at liberty to explain in its entirety their new structure right now, as they’re still tweaking it, but they did say I could announce its existence–and that I could promise new, improved royalties are on the horizon.

Now, before we go too far, I do anticipate a few continuing issues with the final product. I want to manage expectations by talking about those below.

What I’ve seen doesn’t yet bring us to the 70% royalty I think is fair, and which other, similar industries get.Audible continues to reserve the best royalties for those authors who are exclusive to their platform, which I consider bad for consumers, as it stifles competition. In the new structure, both exclusive and non-exclusive authors will see an increase, but the gap is staying about the same.Authors continue to have very little (basically no) control over pricing. Whatever the “cover price” of books is largely doesn’t matter–books actually sell for the price of a credit in an Audible subscription. Authors can never raise prices alongside inflation. An Audible credit costs the same as it did almost two decades ago–with no incentive for Audible to raise it, lest it lose customers to other services willing to loss-lead to draw customers over.

These are things I’d love to see change. However, this deal IS a step forward, and IS an attempt to meet me partway. Indeed, even incremental changes can mean a lot. When I was new in this business, my agent spent months arguing for a two-percent change in one of my print royalties–because every little bit helps. These improvements are going to be larger than two-percent increases.

Because of this, I will be bringing the Secret Projects to Audible very soon. I consider Audible to again be a positive force for the industry, and I have decided to shake hands with them. Audible has promised to release their new royalty system for all authors sometime in 2024, though I should be testing it in the next month or so.

And…if you’ll allow me a moment, I’d like to say that this feels good. It isn’t what I wanted, but I’d begun to think that nothing would ever change–that even my voice, loud though it can be, wouldn’t be enough. Yet change IS possible.

I know that there are plenty of people out there who are tired of hearing about me and my works (I’m sorry–I do have quite the group of evangelists, and we can be an enthusiastic lot). However, for better or for worse, I am one of the bestselling authors in the world. Historically, one of the best ways to change things in my industry is for authors like myself to force it to happen.

Feeling this responsibility, when I was first talking to Audible about these issues in 2022, I made it very clear that I wasn’t just seeking some quiet deal that gave me an individual advantage. I wanted to see positive change for all authors. And while I don’t think I can take sole credit, I do feel like my efforts this year have had a significantly positive effect. Soon every independent author who publishes on Audible (and maybe, eventually, traditionally published authors with the huge publishers–depending on what New York decides) will be getting a larger cut of the profit, with more transparency about how that cut is allocated.

So, for those who have been waiting until Audible had the Secret Projects, you’ll get your chance soon. I hope you’ll support them, and support Audible for their decisions. And thank you to all of you who shared the news about my problems with the audio industry last year; I believe that pressure really did help. This is a victory for all of us, because happier authors able to make a better living (particularly those authors who are struggling in the midlist trenches) make for a more vibrant world for everyone.

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message 1: by Will (last edited Mar 07, 2024 03:46AM) (new)

Will Stecho Wow. This is great news! I was honestly expecting the worst when I saw the big Audible logo at the top of the post. Thank you for using your voice to push for change. It’s heartening to hear that things are moving in the right direction. I’ve always appreciated Audible as a user and was so dissappointed to learn how they were treating the writers that I love and who brought me to the platform in the first place. l hope that strong voices like yours can continue shape them into a platform that is fair to all the writers who make their service possible.


message 2: by Dadbat02 (new)

Dadbat02 Thanks for keeping us posted. I am so happy you were successful in making a difference for the little guy. It is truly inspiring how you were able to drive change in something that seemed completely immovable, or worse, destined to get even worse.


message 3: by Chelle (new)

Chelle le Pigeon Huzzah for positive changes in the audiobook industry! I'm excited to see where this deal goes from here. Can't wait to get Yumi and the Nightmare Painter on Audible whenever it comes out.


message 4: by Nahla (new)

Nahla Aly Great new. I would love it if the whole exclusivity thing was treated with more scrutiny. As a primarily audio reader, I use a multitude of audiobook providers. Yes, Audible is the most well-known, but I also use Everand (Previously Scribd) and library-based providers like CloudLibrary, hoopla, and Libby.

Unlike all the tools I have mentioned, Audible only offers one credit (1 book a month) unless you're willing to buy more credits, and its free-with-membership collection is so limited compared to them. For the readers, Audible is probably the option that provides the least benefits. But we're kind of stuck with it because of exclusivity.

Working with libraries and other providers can help reduce the pressure of going exclusive with Audible. Exclusive deals make it so much harder to access books because you have to limit yourself to 1 a month.

More Audible and Everand-like providers also exist but are not as well-known, like Kobo, Bookmate, and others, working on developing them to become competitors can help make the field a healthier space.


message 5: by Russell (new)

Russell Wow, awesome news! Very happy that attention was brought to this, Brandon. Artists put a ton of work into their craft and deserve every penny they can get for the blood, sweat, and tears. Although I don't aspire to be a career author, I do someday hope to write a fantasy trilogy, but getting started has been deflating.

Can't wait to add these works to my growing collection!


message 6: by Victoria (new)

Victoria  G Can I just say that I love it when an author I like does something incredible like that??? You had the power to negotiate any deal for yourself but instead you fought for all authors to receive their rightful earnings.

My heart is full even though I'm not a writer, and I'm just enjoying all these beautiful books.


message 7: by Dani (new)

Dani H Nahla wrote: "Great new. I would love it if the whole exclusivity thing was treated with more scrutiny. As a primarily audio reader, I use a multitude of audiobook providers. Yes, Audible is the most well-known,..."

Thank you for sharing other sources!


message 8: by Becky (new)

Becky Rivensworth Nahla wrote: "Great new. I would love it if the whole exclusivity thing was treated with more scrutiny. As a primarily audio reader, I use a multitude of audiobook providers. Yes, Audible is the most well-known,..."

To add to this, Libro.fm has a similar subscription model as Audible, but while also supporting your local book store!


message 9: by Steve (last edited Mar 08, 2024 07:51AM) (new)

Steve That's good. Thank you for announcing this news.


message 10: by Duncan (new)

Duncan Becky wrote: "Nahla wrote: "Great new. I would love it if the whole exclusivity thing was treated with more scrutiny. As a primarily audio reader, I use a multitude of audiobook providers. Yes, Audible is the mo..."

Thanks for mentioning Libro.fm, I was going to chime in with that one! I have a friend running a small independent bookstore in a small town who I was able to list as my preferred bookshop, so now every purchase I make on Libro.fm actually benefits a person I know myself, which makes my audiobook habit feel much healthier and less like an addiction than when I was only using Audible. Jokes aside, it is truly wonderful to support a local bookstore just by doing what I was doing already. I highly recommend Libro for that reason.


message 11: by Jana (new)

Jana Ibarra Ahora te admiro más.


message 12: by Shawne (new)

Shawne This is great news. I have used Audible for years, and depending on the outcome of this, I was considering stopping. I was not initially aware of the issues in the background.

Thanks for taking a stand and helping others.


message 13: by Noel (new)

Noel Well done Mr. Sanderson. Keep up the good work.


message 14: by NordicWrites (new)

NordicWrites This is fantastic news! Like you said, I, too, believe that there is still work to be done to improve things for smaller authors in the audio space, but like that 2%, every little helps. Waves wear away mountains a few grains at a time. The main thing is not to stop, and I truly appreciate your efforts to stand up for your fellow professionals as a whole. :)

If the publishing industry becomes too punitive for new authors, they may choose not to bother (why put in the effort, when I could use the same time to improve at my day job and maybe trade up to earn €1000 more annually than I do now?). If new authors stop entering the field, we eventually run out of authors, and then none of us will have anything to read.

To be fair, I don't think we'll ever actually get to the point where no one will write books (passion trumps the incentive of financial gains too easily), but I'd prefer to not put aspiring writers off from trying. Otherwise, the literary community will lose out.

Thanks again for sharing this uplifting development! I'm super glad to hear about it!


message 15: by Ferb (new)

Ferb Good Job Mister Sanderson.
Great job with the cosmere. I cannot wait for Stormlight 5!


message 16: by Rachael (new)

Rachael Lind Thank you so much for using your best selling powers to help make a positive change in the industry! The way Audible works has long bothered me, and it's really exciting hearing you're able to make a positive change with it!


message 17: by Brian (new)

Brian Martin I tend to play "Devil's Advocate" when issues of fairness come up, especially in business.

Some questions I'd like to have answered by Brandon and/or Audible. Are the changes that were "promised" to Brandon about how Audible is GOING to change is royalty structure, payment schedule, and basically overall fairness to authors in a legal, contractual agreement, exclusive ONLY to Brandon, AT THIS TIME?

Did Brandon consult his attorneys to make a provision in HIS agreement with Audible (Amazon really) that the contract is null and void if ALL of the "promised" changes, and I mean 100% of them, as they appear in writing sent to Brandon, that cover ALL Audible authors, do NOT go into effect next year, as Brandon said above?

Also, if the contract becomes null and void, does Brandon regain complete, 100% control of HIS intellectual property, in this case, any books converted to audible form, that Amazon publishes on Audible? We all know that in the past, Audible has had their contracts with other authors reflect the exact opposite. That Amazon retains complete control and ownership of any audible books they publish, regardless of whether or not the author's contract with Audible is valid or invalid (broken in other words).

Corporate "promises" mean NOTHING, unless it's is in writing, and then, this writing can STILL mean NOTHING, if any provision of the contract is broken by either party. Like Brandon said above, "It's all very techinical..." which I assume he's referring to contractual agreement he has with Audible aka Amazon. When I see or hear the phrase "It's all very technical..." I become EXTREMELY skeptical that the "common person" or in this case the "common author" is going to come out on top.

Remember this same line in "The Dark Knight"? It was said by the greasy corporate shark CEO (played by Rutger Hauer) that basically screwed Bruce Wayne, but then, Bruce served it right back to him....after that CEO was fired? (He didn't get the memo, apparently...)

Brandon said many times that he didn't get what he wanted, HOWEVER, the saying "Anything is better than nothing." applies here. There's STILL the issue that Audible is not complying (and until Audible publishes PUBLICALLY it's rate schedule - which it will never do... lets be honest here) with audible book industry standards agreed upon by other audible platforms. Notice, they moved more TOWARDS this, but they didn't meet at the demand for transparency and fairness. I completely understand this is the give and take of capitalism.

However, this begs the question "Will Audible EVER accede to their product CREATORS' demands for fairness in contrast to OTHER audible book platforms?" Probably not. They are the "big boy on the block" and can afford to set terms to the behavior of the audible book platform industry.... until it is MADE to. Enter Brandon.

I do hope Brandon CAN keep his word with this, because that is EXACTLY what he is giving us: His word. I've seen no evidence to indicate Brandon is in the habit of breaking his word. On the contrary, any promise that I've seen he makes has either been fulfilled at or before any deadline.

Brandon, I do hope you CAN keep your word. I understand that the above essay you wrote above has many caveats, but, I hope that Audible doesn't put you in an untenable position to make the choice between providing for your family and keeping your word to your readers, and, the other audible platform providers and THEIR authors and readers.

Don't get me wrong about the significance of what Brandon shared with us here. It IS significant. However, remember the line in from Oathbringer -

"The most important step a man can take. It's not the first one, is it?It's the next one. Always the next step, Dalinar."

I personally identify with the character Dalinar the most out of any of Brandon's characters, because, like Dalinar, I've learned by very painful experience that people will fail you, all the time. I just hope that Brandon won't be hamstrung by greasy corporate lawyers.

What Brandon has done above is just THE FIRST STEP. It is NOT the most important step. The NEXT one is...and then the NEXT, and then...the NEXT.

Progress, not perfection.


message 18: by Weisass (new)

Weisass Brian, you should re-read what Brandon said lol. Your entire comment basically just ignores the entire point of Brandon saying this. Check out his website and read.


message 19: by Brian (new)

Brian Martin On the contrary, I didn't ignore what he said. I prefaced my comment that I play devil's advocate. I wasn't criticizing Brandon, I was pointing out that Audible, if defaulting on the agreement they have with Brandon will give them an advantage in the audible book market, THEY WILL. They can make any kind of contract with Brandon, but, as I said, if breaking it gives them an advantage, they will break it. THAT was my point. It always was my point. Brandon is a good man, but corporations are NOT run by good men. Not for a very long time.


message 20: by Avardent (new)

Avardent Its great that you are using your influence to create good change! Props to Audible for listening too, i didn´t have good expectations for them but they proved they are willing to adapt to what the public wants


message 21: by StevieV (new)

StevieV Thank you for championing change in the industry Brandon, well done Sir!


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