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May 10, 2023 02:00PM

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Are you fighting for comprehensive safe sex education and free access to birth control? Those two policies are proven to reduce the abortion rate, but they somehow aren’t supported by the majority of those who identify as pro-life. Strangely, they aren’t supported by Republicans in general. Likewise, Republicans almost universally oppose programs that help poorer families with things like healthcare and childcare. Being pro-life needs to be more than just virtue signaling; it should be fighting for policies that actually reduce the perceived need for abortion and improve the quality of life for infants and their parents.

The Republican Party sees a greater threat from a Drag Queen than a pissed off white dude with an assault rifle walking into a school.
The Republican Party has become a group of terrorists and bullies who have absolutely no moral or ethical guidelines. Need proof? The Republican Party has done nothing to close down these “fringe right-wing radicals” and instead does everything it can to promote and endorse them. tRump isn’t the cause, he’s just another symptom.

Not when it comes to voting... not in America.
Also, just because you don't consider yourself part of the MAGA movement, if you frame autonomy over one's own body as "killing unborn babies" you are already firmly in the "Them" camp that Wil mentioned.
Note: I'm not making a judgment call against you or your beliefs, I'm just clarifying that your examples are two sides of the same coin.



Are you fighting..."EXACTLY.

Not when it come..."
While you're not wrong that I've framed myself in the camp Wil is referring to...is it really fair to call me a "domestic terrorist" just because I don't believe in abotion? I'm a servicmember and have been for 28 years and have put myself in harms way on many occasions, whether it was to serve our country or another. I'm pretty sure the oath i swore to says "...against all enemies, foreign and domestic..." And if I was called upon to defend the capital, I wold have been arresting and defending. So The fact that there's no middle ground is an opinion of someone who isn't willing to be open to anyone elses opinions or feelings.

Not..."
Steve, I *personally* am anti abortion, but I cannot in good conscious tell anyone else what to do with their body. I think this is the key. It has to remain 'Choice' and, while we are at it, we need to be supportive and not confrontational to woman in this situation.

To be honest, I am also *personally* against abortions. But I firmly stand with an individual’s right to make decisions for themselves, this is the fundamental principle of a free people. If one claims to believe in freedom, we have to agree that we are not going to agree on every issue. This is what is non-negotiable about living in a society. What I interpret Wil as saying is that if you are unwilling to co-exist with people who disagree with you, how can you call yourself someone who respects other people? If you live in a country with Free Speech, you cannot expect everyone to agree with everything you say. That doesn’t mean you must accept everything everyone says, nor does it mean that there are no consequences for speaking your mind, just that you shouldn’t lose your rights as a citizen because you spoke your mind. But it does mean that you could be held accountable for what you say. Quite some years ago, I used to shop at a store that sold comic books, and ate lunch there several times a week. It was cheap and affordable and I had a friend that would meet me there for lunch a couple times a month. Then the store owner wrote an editorial in the town paper claiming that he did not belief in marriage equality and that a homosexual lifestyle was in direct violation of god’s will. I informed him that I wouldn’t be doing business with him in the future, he got mad claiming I was a hypocrite for not upholding his freedom of speech. I pointed out that I never said I was trying to shut him up or prevent him from exercising his right to free speech, only that I couldn’t support his choices with where I choose to spend my money. He ended up going out of business not long after, a reflection that a lot of other people felt the same way as myself (by the way, he ran for public office several times and lost every campaign, so I wasn’t the only person who had issues with his beliefs on various issues). People keep trying to twist what’s happening and claim they’re being “cancelled” when in fact they’re just being held accountable for their actions and their words. It seems there are some people who believe that they are entitled, for whatever reason, to be hateful and mean to other people, but when it comes back against them they see themselves as being victimized, mistreated, or abused. But, I suppose, if I have to explain this to someone, they’ve probably already shown that they may not be able to understand the difference to begin with. So perhaps, there are just people who have empathy, and people who don’t.

Calling fetuses "unborn babies" makes you specifically NOT middle ground. Thought I would fix that for you.