October - Online Octocon!

1st October 2021
Optimism panel


“Right now sucks so I want to read about something better, and maybe if enough people get together we can improve our world.”

Big industry is stuck on the dystopian and cyberpunk; hard to change. Novels of hopepunk in small press or not in English. Phases of transition of society shown.
2nd October
Early TV fantasy



People who grew up looking at the early content decided what they liked, and are now making and remaking those shows. Chat discussed our own favourites and I liked Fantastic Voyage. I asked about the Fianna being filmed, reply, no great knowledge of stories so no market. I said, and no dragons in the Fianna.


Illustration




SB– money in designing logos.
OMG – photos needed now on web, most just use stock photos not original images. On his third Mac since 2001. Last two lasted nearly ten years each. But with software upgrades they no longer work. Once you start subscribing to a software, the publishers start dragging you after the tech, deciding what you can use. He has left Photoshop.
JB - Uses PS rented but his PC with 16mg RAM had marginally too small a graphics card for the painting app.
SB - spotted Peter Donnelly graphics on a Dublin Bus, he also does Keoghs crisp packets, and book illustrations. Pat McIntyre did bus artwork in the 1990s. Most illustrators want to be in comics or books but have to go into design because that is where the money is. This steers your career. He wanted to draw dragons and spaceships but has drawn more toilets than dragons.
JB - An illustrator got hired to draw motorparts for boxes. That pays.
Defending the villain



Dan Abnett, Nik Vincent-Abnett, Joseph Elliott-Coleman, Peadar Ó Guilín, Ruth Frances Long.

Dolores Umbridge in Harry Potter is a worse villain than Voldemort as readers could imagine her as a real person not a fantasy character.

Fantasy prior to LOTR – Gulliver’s Travels. Discoveries, other continents, travellers’ tales, dog-headed people etc. By the 1840s people had photos.
Horror



Kim Newman, Maura McHugh, Anthea West, Gareth Hourahan, Gabriela Houston.


Primal fears of creatures, the dark, ghosts, being trapped. Globally there are many rituals with the purpose of settling the dead and keeping lingering spirits away from people. Ghosts being around people is generally recognised as a bad thing.



African SF

Tobi Ogundiran, Yvette Lisa Ndlovu, Dilman Diva, Joseph Elliot-Coleman (a bookseller).


People under 20 are very interested in other cultures.


AI and consciousness
Ann Cory, Julian West, James Brophy, Pete Mullineaux.




Ann – at one time children were not considered to have a consciousness until they were older.
Coding nonhumans
Angeline Adams, Kat Dodd, S L Dove Cooper, Cherly Morgan, Faranae.
Murderbot says it has no interest in sex or gender. A cyborg. Neurodiversity and gender diverse – one character can’t represent all dimensions. Easier to make people stereotypes.


CM - it’s bad representation, when the whole point of a character is to tick a box and represent a stereotype.
Farane – metaphor. The people of that world were all the same but ambassadors are different.
SL - The Machineries of Empire - she has dyscalculia and someone told her that was in the book – she didn’t believe them, had read it. She had to get the Kindle to find the word.
CM - Some very subtle hints are about trans people who have transitioned in books. Just a mention of hormones etc. You can hire sensitivity readers.
Paul - agreed. Make more diverse characters fill your story and then add aliens. Don’t have the alien just to represent the ‘other’.
AA - if you have several characters that means no one person has to be the be all and end all of representation.
KD - Assume good faith by the author. Well-intentioned. We don’t know where an author is coming from, new author with no track record, they might be queer or autistic and have a different experience than the reader who has that characteristic too. Autism presents differently in men and women.
Orbital Tidy Towns

James Brophy, Declan Meenagh, Vanessa MacLaren-Wray, Mary Brigid Turner, James Shields, Dav Waldron, Russell A. Smith.



As with last year, I will leave it at the end of Saturday’s talks and post the Sunday content next month. This includes panels discussing their experience of creativity during Covid lockdowns.

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