“It's like the Marxists who are telling us that Eastern Europe wasn't really socialism. At some point, you have to ask yourself: could it be that this principle cannot work out in practice with human beings as they exist on this planet?”

“It's like the Marxists who are telling us that Eastern Europe wasn't really socialism. At some point, you have to ask yourself: could it be that this principle cannot work out in practice with human beings as they exist on this planet?”