Huh, Interesting Interview.

Edit: and it goes to show that this video came after a McGovern video (earned his stripes in the peace movement during the buildup to Iraq), so I assumed some level of professionalism, though perhaps with a shake of conspiracy. And hell, the interview, if a little soft, was solid. So then I see this meme with the likes of Musk and my interviewer (well, and Trump and Assange, the guy he had arrested and tortured) all on the same team. 
Not even sure what to make of that. 
So perhaps for some people there's a loose conspiratorial persons (and how Trump gets in there, I have no idea...) who always talk about "those corrupt types" or "corrupt power" even if they are well embedded in that. So that's how Assange (definitely being tortured and abused for no reason) and Snowden gets thrown in with people who have arrested them (the former) and would in a heartbeat (the latter). And, I suppose, they'd throw Ray McGovern in there too. 
This kind of association (I assume it's with the right wing conspiracists mainly) seems beyond the pale, if you think about it for even a second. And yet with the meme economy of the internet, it ends up being the most viral because no one wants to think too much. Instead they want to go by vibes. There's probably more to be said. Perhaps the video below is someone crazy (hell haven't watched the rest of their podcasts, so that could be it) and I'm wrong for pointing that out. But is that the case? 


Know of a few podcasts. Bene thinking about them and what they convey. The internet scream is against it all, even the easy going fireside chats because they're just certain that they are vehicles to much worse. Not sure about that. Seems similar to some of the liberals in #theresistance and how they go on so much about Trump that they miss some of their own crap (or don't understand the situation because they don't see that Trump only ever jumped in front of a parade of fools/crazies). 
But podcasts, such as Rogan and the one at the bottom of this post, are usually conversational pieces that do give a piece of the person being talked to, but because of rapport, people rarely dig deep. 
That being said, when I see this interview I do think it highlights a certain subsection of liberals that are there for show. I thought that made the difference in the public, but I don't. It's too much like the right. 
So I will watch that Oliver Stone doc on Putin. Hell, apparently he gets Putin to watch Dr. Strangelove. Definitely the ultimate and still relevant film of the United States. 
Because this interview is worth listening to. 
That he mentions a wall of propaganda in the West is something that I too have been wondering about because it does seem to be cloaking the land, this beast that was once the purview of the right alone. I certainly think this war is allowing those with power to further consolidate those gains (started by Reagan, worsened by Clinton.... never fixed... I speak of the media consolidation into a few hands). Combine that with SCOTUS saying innocent people can be executed, that women should be forced to give birth, and well, no states can pass too many gun control laws.... even after a school shooting.... so you can kind of see the Neo feudalism we're heading towards. Certainly not a democracy.
Hope? Look at Chile. They've taken down their constitution from Pinochet days and are voting on a new one. Gotta fight for that shit though. 
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