An appearance in Channel 4 News, in debate with Joan Bakewell - available for a few hours only

Slowly, slowly, I am swimming back towards the mainstream., or the mainstream is moving closer to me. From exile, via Piers Morgan, Talk Radio and Sky News, I last night reached Channel Four news, to take part in this abbreviated debate with Lady Bakewell  (it was recorded and edited) 47 minutes into this: 

https://www.channel4.com/programmes/channel-4-news/on-demand/70927-105