88 Names podcast (fixed) (for real)

The brilliant writer Matt Ruff just published a new heist novel about gold-farming and MMORPGs called 88 NAMES thats like Snow Crash meets The King and I:

https://boingboing.net/2020/03/17/3d-gen-gold-farmers.html

Matts doing a podcast about the book with Blake Collier, and I appeared in the latest episode:

We cover a lot of ground: the state of tech and how it influences everything from economics to the environment, how fiction...