The Random Show — On Fasting, Forest Bathing, How to Say NO, Rebooting the Self, and Much More (#391)

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Technologist, serial entrepreneur, world-class investor, self-experimenter, and all-around wild and crazy guy Kevin Rose (@KevinRose), rejoins me for another episode of The Random Show. In this one we discuss Japanese whisky, domestic speakeasies, wooden saddles, the rebooting power of Anthony de Mello’s Awareness, poetry, the art of surrender and letting go, mushroom cultivation in the Pacific Northwest, fasting, learning to say no, and much more!

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Want to hear another episode of The Random Show? — Listen to this 2017 conversation with Kevin Rose in which we discuss traveling in Japan on the cheap, love and marriage, beauty and absurdity, and urine drinking. (Stream below or right-click here to download):

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Past Episodes of The Random Show
Past Drunk Dialing Episodes
Bar Gen
The 4-Hour Chef: The Simple Path to Cooking Like a Pro, Learning Anything, and Living the Good Life by Timothy Ferriss
Tribeca Restaurant Brushstroke Will Close, Following Chef David Bouley’s Departure, Grub Street
Shou Sugi Ban: The Modern Home Designer’s Obsession, Manomin Resawn Timbers
The Twilight Zone
Ichiro’s Malt Card Series — The Colored Joker, Dekanta
Ichiro’s Malt Card Series — Six of Hearts, Dekanta
Pappy Van Winkle Bourbon
Hibiki 30 Year Old Whisky, Dekanta
The Birth of SakÈ Documentary
Cafe De L’ambre: Legendary, Tokyo Coffee
The 4 Hour Body: An Uncommon Guide to Rapid Fat Loss, Incredible Sex and Becoming Superhuman by Timothy Ferriss
Trial by Fire TV Debut, Tim Ferriss
Founder Institute
Why Japan’s Streets Are Spotless, World Economic Forum
An Admirable Culture of Shame, The New York Times
34 Essential Things to Know Before You Visit China, Y Travel Blog
Subtle Giveaways That Show You’re an American Tourist Abroad, Thrillist
10 Montreal Stereotypes You Don’t Want To Admit Are True, MTL Blog
Things Tourists Should Beware of in Japan, Wander Wisdom
The Goonies
SeaWorld
The Benefits of Forest Bathing, Time
Physiological Effects of Touching Hinoki Cypress (Chamaecyparis Obtusa), Journal of Wood Science
An Ode To Japan’s Undiscovered, Aromatic Hiba Wood, T Magazine Singapore
Forest Bathing: How Trees Can Help You Find Health and Happiness by Dr. Qing Li
Shinrin-Yoku: The Medicine of Being in the Forest
Peter Mallouk — Exploring the Worlds of Investing, Assets, and Quality of Life, The Tim Ferriss Show #356
Awareness by Anthony de Mello
Waking Up with Sam Harris
How to Change Your Mind: What the New Science of Psychedelics Teaches Us About Consciousness, Dying, Addiction, Depression, and Transcendence by Michael Pollan
The Gift: Poems by Hafiz, the Great Sufi Master by Hafiz and Daniel Ladinsky
Powell’s Books | The World’s Largest Independent Bookstore
Jour
The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself Sponsored The Untethered Soul: The Journey Beyond Yourself by Michael A. Singer
Michael Singer’s Courses, Sounds True
Why Latter-Day Saints Don’t Drink Alcohol, Tea, and Coffee? The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints
Oak Meditation and Breathing Exercises
DRAM Apothecary Sparkling Water
Why We Sleep: Unlocking the Power of Sleep and Dreams by Matthew Walker
True Ventures
How to Grow Mushrooms Outside with the Log Inoculation Process, Fungially
9 Health Benefits of Lion’s Mane Mushroom (Plus Side Effects), Healthline
Paul Stamets — How Mushrooms Can Save You and (Perhaps) the World, The Tim Ferriss Show #340
Zero Fasting Tracker
Dr. Peter Attia on Life-Extension, Drinking Jet Fuel, Ultra-Endurance, Human Foie Gras, and More, The Tim Ferriss Show #50
The Longevity Diet: Discover the New Science Behind Stem Cell Activation and Regeneration to Slow Aging, Fight Disease, and Optimize Weight by Valter Longo
Valter Longo — How Fasting Improves Chemotherapy — From the Early Mice Studies to Humans, Fast Life Hacks
Could Intermittent Fasting Be the Answer to Reducing Breast Cancer Recurrence Risk? DAM. MAD. About Breast Cancer.
Ganache Recipe & Video, Martha Stewart
Ruby Jewel
Remember the Hilarious Horror of GeoCities with This Website, Gizmodo
Automattic
The 4-Hour Workweek: Escape 9-5, Live Anywhere, and Join the New Rich by Timothy Ferriss
John Muir Misquoted, Sierra Club
Pulp Fiction
The World’s Largest Psychedelic Research Center, The Tim Ferriss Show #385
The Steven and Alexandra Cohen Foundation
TOMS
The Multidisciplinary Association for Psychedelic Studies (MAPS)
Trip of Compassion
Tim Ferriss, the Man Who Put His Money Behind Psychedelic Medicine, The New York Times
5-Bullet Friday

SHOW NOTES

Coming at you from Kevin’s tailor-made speakeasy in Portland, musing over the fact that the time between the first Random Show and this one is literally a dog’s age. [03:38]
What are we drinking tonight? [10:02]
Why is Japanese whiskey Kevin used to buy in a Tokyo train station just a few years ago so expensive and hard to find today? [13:18]
What would-be entrepreneurs who want to make themselves recession-proof might learn from artisan-level Japanese sake brewers and aged coffee connoisseurs specializing in 45-minute pour overs. [14:51]
Why wooden Japanese saddles give me so much joy. [18:09]
Japan as an art exhibit or zoo of pocket obsessions. [23:36]
I’ve raved about Japan plenty of times on this show and will surely rave again. But what does Kevin find particularly appealing about Japan? [24:20]
The best and worst places we’ve traveled are sometimes the same, but attempting to speak the local language usually has predictably good or bad results depending on where you are. [27:28]
Kevin talks about his love for forest bathing. [31:20]
Making Kevin (and perhaps you, gentle listener) aware of the book Awareness by Anthony de Mello and the powerful rebooting effect it has on me in times of mental disharmony. [35:23]
On Pollan, poetry, Powell’s, and other pages we’ve been perusing. [39:52]
Kevin’s takeaways about surrender and social programming from a course by The Untethered Soul author Michael Singer. [43:54]
We agree that Sam Harris probably has the best paid meditation app, but you should check out Kevin’s Oak app if you want something simple and free to get started. [50:49]
Can this sparkling water Kevin’s been raving about really change your world? What’s so special about it? [51:53]
Since moving to the Pacific Northwest, Kevin’s found a different, deeper approach to work that better matches the pace of his newly realized, mushroom-cultivating lifestyle. [55:17]
Kevin does a lot of fasting, but don’t worry — because Portland beers help him slow down considerably. We discuss his Zero fasting app, the differences between some of the better-known methods of fasting, and what the science is telling us about fasting’s miraculous effect on cancer patients. [57:27]
No discussion about fasting would be complete if it didn’t wrap up with teary-eyed reminiscence over the Ruby Jewel ice cream we mercilessly devoured last night. [1:02:47]
How I said no to saying no and aim to roll out a positive from this double negative. [1:04:23]
Congratulations to the entire team at Johns Hopkins for the successful launch of the world’s largest psychedelic research center and the non-anonymous donors who made it possible. [1:17:43]
What will this allow the researchers at Johns Hopkins to do that wasn’t possible before? [1:21:43]
How has a high-dose psilocybin guided session directly helped Kevin? [1:25:27]
How might someone who wants to help extend the funding for this research best target their donation? [1:26:35]
Parting thoughts. [1:29:31]

PEOPLE MENTIONED

Toaster
Adeo Ressi
Tony Conrad
Michael Jordan
Peter Mallouk
Anthony de Mello
Sam Harris
Michael Pollan
Hafiz
Mary Oliver
Daniel Ladinsky
Michael Singer
Matthew Walker
Peter Attia
Valter Longo
Mike Maser
Matt Mullenweg
Josh Waitzkin
Leo Tolstoy
John Muir
Harvey Keitel
Blake Mycoskie
Craig Nurnberg
Darya Rose
Benedict Carey
Alan Burdick