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Sep 27, 2019 04:04AM

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Abomination!"
Is it really so bad for teens to read these books?

Abomination!"
Is it really so bad for teens to read these books?"
I was just surprised that there would need to be a special edition for YA. Nothing about the original book seemed to me to be particularly inappropriate for that age group

I absolutely second that opinion. Fantastic!

Chris wrote: "Jon wrote: "Alderlv wrote: "Chris wrote: "Wait, there's a YA version of Mistborn?!"
Abomination!"
Is it really so bad for teens to read these books?"
I was just surprised that there would need t..."

I'm a book seller, so I understand that it is easier to sell books to teens in their own section, but it feels to me like male sci-fi fantasy authors are all in the sci-fi/fantasy section and female sci-fi/fantasy authors are all the the YA section. I don't think this is the authors' faults, but marketing and sexism in our society.
Anyway, rant over, I really like the new covers.
Sierra wrote: "The content was not different, just the covers were different to appeal to multiple markets.
Chris wrote: "Jon wrote: "Alderlv wrote: "Chris wrote: "Wait, there's a YA version of Mistborn?!"
Abom..."
Tommy wrote: "Ricardo wrote: "Oh wow. The Hero of Ages one is particularly awesome!"
I absolutely second that opinion. Fantastic!"

The age of the protagonist doesn't determine the publishing category, otherwise Ender's Game would be middle grade.


No, that's not it either.... It's more the feel of the book that determines where it goes. Middle grade tends to be more lighthearted, but still deals with heavy emotional topics more often that I ever get used to, while still being simple to read and comprehend.
YA almost always has a romantic interest. Almost always. There are some exceptions, but usually YA is either action-packed fantasy or dystopian with a romance, be it a love triangle, a forbidden relationship, or just two normal people being obsessed with each other. There are also books that take place in modern times with modern people and modern problems. They usually feel more exciting, like emotional roller coasters.
Adult is very polarized. The vast majority is romantic disgustingness but there are also a huge variety of mysteries, thrillers, fantasy that is typically denser than necessary and sometimes hard to follow, as well as others. I feel like one thing that distinguishes adult fiction is that they don't shy away from the harsher ideas or themes, whereas YA does very much of the time.
They each have benefits and drawbacks. The age or gender of the characters has nothing to do with it.

I agree that books are not shelved only upon age and gender, but it is a huge factor.
Why aren't there more female authors and characters in sci/fi/fantasy? Why aren't there more male authors and characters in YA? YA feels (and yes, I'm using feels) like it is for teenage girls, not for teenagers. Sci-fi/fantasy does have some great female characters and authors, but tends to be very male dominated.
It would be interesting to get authors perspectives on this, but I'm pretty sure unless you're John Green it is hard to get a YA book deal if you're a man and I'm pretty sure it is harder to get "adult sci/fi/fantasy" book deals if you're a woman.
I do think Ender's Game, Ender's Shadow (and it's sequels) should be shelved with middle school books. Now that's harder with The Book of the Dead and Xenocide, but I still feel a middle schooler could read them. I think Mistborn will fit right in with the YA section. From what I've seen of the Throne of Glass it should be shelved in the fantasy (adult) section.
I can't think of a YA book that doesn't have a teenage protagonist. I'm sure there is one, but I can't think of it.

But the book isn't YA because the protagonist is a certain age, the characters are a certain age because people of that age are the target audience. Ender's Game isn't middle grade, Even though he's under fifteen the entire book. The mature themes and philosophical messages are very much adult, if only because kids in elementary school won't be able to understand what's happening.
In YA, most of the readers are teenage girls, so most authors writing for that audience write from the perspective of someone that age. But I can think of several adult books that star teenage girls, and they aren't YA.