The third queen

Jane Seymour died on October 24, 1537 of the complications of childbirth, twelve days after giving birth to Henry’s longed-for son. Jane may have been lucky to go out on a high note, exiting at the top of her game, if you will, given her husband’s increasingly erratic, unpredictable nature. (See Parr, Katherine) But imagine if she had survived. How would that have changed history? I can immediately think of three women who’d have had much happier lives—Anne of Cleves, Catherine Howard, and Katherine Parr. Her son would certainly have benefited from having his mother around. Maybe even her grasping, ambitious brothers, who could conceivably have avoided their fatal over-reaching, although I rather doubt it. Of course if Henry had only three wives, subsequent Hollywood screenwriters and historical novelists would have been deprived of some of their best material.
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Published on October 24, 2018 12:01
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message 1: by Therese (new)

Therese Jane might beg to differ with you that she was lucky by dying :-) It certainly gives one pause to wonder what history would have been like otherwise. Only 3 wives? Say it isn't so! And I agree. Catherine Howard would have been happier. She would have been alive :-)


message 2: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I am sure she would, Therese! I imagine Henry was treating her well, for he hadn't had time yet to tire of her. I am sure he was delighted when she gave him a son, but I don't doubt that she survived, he'd have begun to stray again. But I find it hard to imagine that Jane was madly in love with him and she does not seem to have had Anne Boleyn's prickly pride, so I could see her doing as so many queens had to do--learning to turn a blind eye as long as Henry did not embarrass her in public. Is that how you see it, too?


message 3: by Therese (new)

Therese It would seem unusual for Henry not to stray, and yet Jane held the trump card – her son. I don't know very much about her but I've never thought that she was infatuated with him to any degree. Who would be?!


message 4: by Sharon (new)

Sharon My feelings, too. Although Katharine of Aragon apparently loved him, but then they were wed when he was young and handsome and had not morphed into the monster he later became. How she could continue to love though, after he treated her and their daughter so badly is surely a mystery for the ages.


message 5: by Therese (new)

Therese Out of duty? Also she probably wanted to remain Queen, not to mention have her daughter recognized.


message 6: by Sharon (new)

Sharon I understand why she refused to let Henry dissolve their marriage as if it had never been, and I don't doubt that she felt that she was his wife until the time she drew her last breath. And of course she was fiercely protective of Mary. I seem to remember reading, though, how she continued to profess her love for him even on her deathbed. Of course my memory could be playing me false on that; I've never seriously studied the Tudors. She was very pious, so it is only natural that she'd believe they were still married in the eyes of God. It was Henry's bad luck that she was very courageous, too, and stubborn. An interesting woman.


message 7: by Anduine (new)

Anduine I think of all of Henry's wives, Anne of Cleves was the real lucky one. She only had to go through a divorce (which she certinly didn't mind) and remained his "beloved" sister and could live out her life in peace. Jane remained on a pedestal, because she died in childbed after giving Henry his much longed for son. I'm sure Henry would have always credited her for that at any rate, but I doubt that she would have lived a happy life, not with Henry as a husband and her ambitious family by her side. Interesting thought though.


message 8: by Chris (new)

Chris I agree about Anne of Cleves. How she managed to keep a good relationship of any kind with Henry much less her head is amazing giving his proclivities.


message 9: by Loretta (last edited Oct 28, 2018 11:38AM) (new)

Loretta Chris wrote: "I agree about Anne of Cleves. How she managed to keep a good relationship of any kind with Henry much less her head is amazing giving his proclivities."

I suspect she had a very strong survival instinct. 😉


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