More Game of Thrones – Season 7 Ending Thoughts!
Okay so second GoT post in a row. Still kind of obsessing over it and need to vent a little about the end of season 7 and everything that’s been going down and change some predictions.
I’m still pretty sure about Jon staying alive but with all the talk of Dany not being able to have babies (which means she can) I’m starting to worry Game of Thrones is going to turn into Babies Ever After. Okay, that probably won’t happen since it is GoT after all, but it does seem like the chances of Dany having a bun in the oven from the boat sex is likely.
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So I feel like I should correct my earlier ‘no-no that’s not going to happen’ thing. I guess something like it is going to happen. In the show. I really hope/ don’t think it will in the books. But what do I know! Anyway a possibly Jon-Dany pregnancy is going to cause quite a bit of trouble (if there is enough time to have actual thoughts about it. It might end up being a ‘I’m knocked up-oh no- I’m dead‘ situation).
We have a few issues and depending on what order the character get the info it will change how they handle it.
Let’s say Jon and Dany learn about Jon being the ‘true’ (at this point does it even matter whose the throne is by inheritance?) heir to the Iron Throne before Dany learns she’s up the duff. Her reaction might range from murderous to miffed to Dany suggesting they marry to strengthen both their claims (she thought she’d marry her brother for most of her life so she won’t have a problem with the incest) or Jon might denounce his ‘claim’ and that will be end of it. Or she could be all super hormonal pissed about it. But it seems they’re making Dany more heroic and stuff, so she’ll probably be okay with it.
If Dany tells him she’s pregnant, even before any of that Jon will probably insist they marry because of his whole bastard issue and they’ll probably be happy about it. (Until Jon learns she’s his aunt, but then it will be too late and he’ll be like ‘whatever’ after a minute).
Their marriage, from either baby-issues or Tag Iron Throne claim might fuck things up even more with the northers for Jon (more bending the knee) or not. They might be all, right, we have a norther as King of all of the seven kingdoms Go Team! They seem pretty fickle, first not following Jon, then following him, then wanting to make Sansa their Queen.
Sansa will probably not like the Jon/Dany thing, no matter what form it takes. She was all annoyed about him bending the knee, actually putting a ring on it might really piss her off. At this point maybe Arya and Sansa are on the same “team” and will both be Anti-Dany, which along with the Tagaryan revelation might put some distance between them and Jon. They won’t like being expected to ‘kneel’ to the south again, now that they have reclaimed the their home and the north and killed off Little Finger. Not sure.
Over all though I liked 7×07. It was a lot more enjoyably than episode 6, which made no sense time-wise or motivation-wise. It was just for the Dany saving them/ Jon being stupidly heroic thing + so the WW would get a dragon. 7×06 was my least favorite episode of the WHOLE series. Seriously I’d rather do the Red Wedding again. All of season 7 and some of 6 have been a bit less awesome though, probably because that’s where the source material ends and GRRM haven’t been involved.
Anyways ep. 7 had lots of things happen and it felt like we made some progress. Dany showed off her dragon. Cerci was being her Cerci self – saying one thing and doing another and always having a devious plan. The Starks took down Little Finger, is a rather unsatisfying way, but whatever. Jon got to be honorable which fucked things up. As Always.
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Starks and their honor
I got a little bit of a ‘aww cute’ for the Dany/ Jon moment at the dragon pit but I’m still not feeling the pairing. It’s like when you have those two friends you thought would be great together and you set them up and they’re like “okay we’re supposed to like each other, we’re both hot and stuff so let’s sleep together” because people expect it. That’s where I’m at with the Dany/Jon thing right now. For me it’s more of a “we’re both pretty and young and have power so lets hook up” than true love vibe going on.
Despite it being a little convenient I liked how we got Bran and Sam figuring out Jon’s parentage parallel to him and Dany sleeping together. Thumbs up for that. I’m just not really sure what they’re going to do with Jon being the true heir, the Dany relationship or the Great War. Is Dany going to be the “Princess that was Promised” via her and Jons baby and die (along with her dragons) in early season 8 while defeating the WW and the “Final Battle” will then be Jon leading her armies to destroy Cerci?
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Is Jon vs. Cerci going to be the last war?
I still refuse to believe the war with the WWs is the final battle. But maybe it will be. It won’t in the books but in the show it might…still I hope it will be something else and I really would have liked a Jon vs Dany conflict. I feel like that would really fit in with the whole show. Having the story’s two “heroes” got to war against each other for reason we understand and agree with (on both sides) and us not knowing not quite who to route for.
Not sure, but for now I’m going to (try to) put Game Of Thrones out of my mind since it’s going to be more than a year (some say spring 19) until we get the last season. It’s going to be really interesting to see how D&D will wrap everything up and I really hope it’s at least going to be moderately satisfying.
I’m wish they’d throw in a little more politics and shades of gray but with most power hungry families blown up (or poisoned or set on fire and) Little Finger gone and pretty much everyone but Cerci and Euron on the same team it’s beginning to look like ‘white-ish team’ (Dany & Jon), ‘dark-gray’ (Cerci & Euron) and ‘black’ team (the White Walkers) instead of lots of shades of gray.
Speaking of gray, right now Jamie really is the most interesting of the bunch (he’s always been). By their relationship to him Brienne, Cerci, Brom and Tyrion are also interesting. Jamie got his past, his present with Cerci and their possible baby as well as what his conscious, honor and heart tells him. He is also the one character I don’t feel like I got pegged right now. Is he off to join the Starks/ Dany – how will that go? Or what? What’s his plan? What’s his next step? Will he find redemption? Will he return to Cerci? Will he fight against her?
The rest of the cast I feel I got pretty well pegged.
Team Dany + Jon are off to fight the WW. Team Stark and the north will be joining up with them. They’ll go off and fight the walkers and win but with lots of casualties.
Maybe Dany and Jon will get married, maybe Jon will denounce his claim to the throne and end things because Dany is his aunt, but then with her probably ending up pregers change his mind? Whatever personal drama, I can’t really invest since I’m pretty sure she will die and I don’t feel like Jon knows/ loves her enough for her death to be emotionally devastating. It’s also like on one hand – zombies are coming to kill everyone – other hand these people just hooked up and might be into each other. I mean you don’t watch Game of Thrones for the romance. So it’s like whatever. I’m more interested in how the Starks / Jon dynamic will be affected by his Dany relationship.
Team Cerci will be all ‘power, power, me want’ and she might go full Mad Queen if/when she loses her baby (and hears Jamie is dead). I’m thinking things will end tragically, but Cerci as Queen and actually ruling and commanding armies isn’t as interesting as it was when there was actual political maneuvering. And her costumes suck these days. And why isn’t her hair growing?
Those are our two teams. Jon and Dany will be off defeating the WW. Cerci will be conquering the seven kingdoms. I feel like that’s all rather predictable (but with GoT something totally unexpected could happen, but as of late it’s been pretty lacking in the OMG I didn’t see that coming). At least one more dragon + ice dragon will probably die. I’m thinking Dany and Jamie too. After that it will finish off with some sort of big battle between actual human armies.
Weather it ends up being Cerci vs. the Starks/ Tag (which seems more likely than my original Tagarayn vs. Tagaryan theory), or something else remains to be seen. Maybe Dany will go Mad Queen instead of Cerci. Maybe Jon’s death causes it (even though I still don’t think he’ll die, but it would be interesting if he did). Or Dany will lose another baby but live herself and that will cause some Mad Queen stuff. Maybe we’ll have two pregnant Queens fighting the last battle and it will end up being called the ‘Battle of the Bellies’!
As for the absolute end predictions, I’m still thinking Sansa (possibly Jon) in Winterfell. The Iron Throne either melted to nothing or a bunch of new families struggling to get power. Dany + the dragons dead, but maybe she will get to sit on the throne first. I don’t think Jon will take the Iron Throne, but with how they’re playing things it seems more and more possible. Before I didn’t think Jon on the throne was possible, but now with him legit, I’m upgrading it to a possibly-maybe. Just because this for reals would be awesome!
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My death predictions are quite similar to my previous post. I still think Jon will live. Even if the whole The Lone Wolf Dies Sansa speech (lone-wolf has been Jon/ Arya for most of the show and now Arya is home but Jon is not) but then again he’s not a Stark. But he is, because he said Ned was Theon’s dad no matter what, which clearly applies to him. And him dying might be a trigger for Dany somehow. So not as 100% sure he’ll survive but still pretty sure.
I’m still thinking Dany is the one who will die. Ghost and Sansa will live, Arya and Cerci will die. Tyrion will live. Brom too. Thing I really changed my mind about is I now believe Jamie will dies for a Stark, completing his redemption ark. Maybe Bran. Or Sansa since she has a connection with the tower Bran was pushed out from; it was where she lit a light for help when escaping from Ramsey. (Brienne would remember and maybe they’d use the system again? And if she and Jamie meet up, he’d go with her and they’d save Sansa together and Jamie would die – I’m just not sure from what since there isn’t a whole lot enemies left in Winterfell with LF gone.) I also think Brienne will live which I was a little iffy on in my first post.
As predicted / spoiled Little Finger died in episode 7, in a quite unsatisfying way. I mean all the Starks did was throw some accusations out there and execute him on the spot. Not cool. Balish not having a clue or a trick up his sleeve + him begging for his life felt kind of out of character.
It seems Tormund died at the Wall. We didn’t get a hound/ mountain show down which I thought was going to happen so that was a little disappointing. And it seems Gendry has been put back on a boat – maybe he died as the Wall fell too? We didn’t see him so let’s hope not. Maybe he’s just been hiding on Dany’s boat, chilling out. I really hope so because I want a Arya / Gendry reunion. Not sure what I’d want (I don’t ship them as a couple) from their meet but I do know I want them to reunite. Same for Arya and Sansa both meeting the Hound again.
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