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Aug 03, 2017 01:54AM
Robin, as someone who has a great attachment to The Dark Tower, it is very encouraging to read this. I think we all wanted the Ron Howard massive movie/TV show hybrid that was honestly an unrealistic dream. It's nice to read your post. I can't wait to see Roland on the big screen.
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The comment about the critic really bothers me, enough that I believe that I need to remark upon it. Critics have an opinion. OK. Everyone has an opinion. I hope that people take the time to form their own. This world has turned into a bandwagon world, where people do not explore topics, books, or movies unless they have been led there by someone they believe is more qualified them themselves. This has led to a world that follows the leader in politics and opinions, leaving the responsibility of outcomes to everyone else.
Watch the movie, read the book, research the topic. Make your own decision and NEVER leave it up to a critique to do the thinking for you.
Wei Lien wrote: "It looks like only 18% of the critics agree with you, though. :("Critics can be wrong. . .
Cindi wrote: "The comment about the critic really bothers me, enough that I believe that I need to remark upon it. Critics have an opinion. OK. Everyone has an opinion. I hope that people take the time to form ..."
I think the bandwagon universe is probably why the world "moved on."
I've been reading a lot of negative reviews about the movie and was becoming slightly disheartened. I would obviously make my own judgment about what I see, but to read what you have written here fills my heart with hope again. I'll be searching for Easter Eggs for sure, and this Tower Junkie is happy to see that "Book 8" has been faithfully brought to the masses.
Wei Lien wrote: "It looks like only 18% of the critics agree with you, though. :("Well, unless the other 82% are die-hard fans of the books, I'm not really interested in their opinions.
I'm a huge fan of The Gunslinger Series. My husband and I went to the movie last night and both came home highly disappointed!
Same as Adam, I was getting discouraged and disappointed too by the reviews as my plan was to complete reading the series before watching the movie (as of now, I am at page 155 of book 7!!!). After reading the comments and the reflection, I will continue as planned, completing the books first, then watching it once it hits local theathers and forming my own opinion. Also, I just found out the 82% of negative reviews came from Sombra corporation, to hell with those low men critics.
Cindi wrote: "The comment about the critic really bothers me, enough that I believe that I need to remark upon it. Critics have an opinion. OK. Everyone has an opinion. I hope that people take the time to form ..."
Exactly! Everyone has a an opinion and what i like, you might not like it. So people interested in movies, books, music, politics, etc, should form their opinions by seeing, listening, reading what they interested in. You can be missing something really great by following some elses opinion.
The movie in itself is ok but was cookie cutted from the books and far too short. It should have been a lot better especially compared to other books that were adapted.
Charli wrote: "If there is anything I've learned watching movies based on Stephen King novels over the years it is this: forget everything you know about the novels and go into the movie expecting a good movie, n..."I guess you're not counting Shawshank Redemption then. Or The Green Mile. Both are very true to the books.
Not to mention the movies that really destroyed a good book. The Running Man is one of my favorites, but the movie is sooo bad.
As a die hard fan, I am reluctant to see the movie. Only because of past experiences. I've found that no Stephen King movie compared favorably to any Stephen King book. I enjoy his books so much that his adaptations always fall short to me. I realize there are time and money factors involved. This could prevent parts of the book from being utilized, sometimes they are my most personal favorite parts.
I was so worried as casting news first starting coming out. I told myself it is an adaptation, that it is impossible to tell this tale in one feature length film, and that I had to see it. So I went to see the movie just last night and thoroughly enjoyed the experience. There were cheers and clapping as the credits rolled. I believe non-readers & Roland are well-met. I truly hope that this is only the start of bringing a complete Dark Tower series to the screen.
I'm sorry but I must disagree. Apart from a few tidbits thrown in(they felt like they were thrown in so we true fans would nod our heads and feel like we were 'in' on it) the movie was for people who didn't read the books. It was a simple good vs evil film with none of the depth(and few of the characters) or spirit. Having seen the trailers I was ready to be a little disappointed but I remained hopeful and willing to be pleasantly surprised. This is NOT MY Dark Tower. After all the studios and directors and years THIS is the best they could do? To quote another disappointment "so sad".
I saw the movie a couple of days ago and decided to wait before giving my thoughts... I am glad that (unlike with American Gods and the tv series) I did not re-read the Gunslinger series. Instead, I avoided too many trailers and articles and tried to go in with a clear vision. I was a bit worried by the quick reviews I inadvertently saw (damn you Facebook!) which expressed disappointment, but ultimately I enjoyed the lean run time and quick pacing of the movie. I am a big King fan and have not liked a lot of the adaptations of his works, but I did like this one. This isn't a great movie, but it is good.
Mary Johnson wrote: "As a die hard fan, I am reluctant to see the movie. Only because of past experiences. I've found that no Stephen King movie compared favorably to any Stephen King book. I enjoy his books so much th..."I would agree but there are exceptions. Misery, Stand by Me, The Green Mile and Shawshank Redemption were all adapted from his books and were all excellent films.
I am disappointed with the movie. Whole gunslinger universe was crumpled in cheap average 1.5 hours action movie. So much noise about this film, expected something well-crafted like "The Shawshank Redemption" and got this third-rate western-like stuff.Man in Black is the only role, which makes this film worth watching. Matthew McConaughey is amazing, he looks and acts like a real evil sorcerer. All the others are fake compared to him.
I am a huge Stephen King fan and when I heard the DT was coming out in film I decided to reread the books. Just finished The Wastelands and went to see the movie last night. I have to say that I was disappointed. Ron Howard was a producer. I expected more. Not much of a social media fan so did not see reviews before the movie. I did talk to people in the theater after the movie was over who were not readers and they seemed to enjoy it. Of course, a 1 1/2 hour movie could not do justice and the Easter eggs felt like cheap shots to me.
It was an okay movie. Not the epic I was hoping for but it was well acted and the action was good. I think people built up so much hype the cannot see the movie for what it was. I refuse to hate a movie because some critic said I'm supposed to. Was it what I wanted it to be no. But its a 7 book mega universe. For a movie it was good.
When I first heard they were making a Dark Tower movie I was overwhelmed with excitement. My favorite book series ever was finally coming to the big screen. Then I found out it was just going to be 1 movie. Then I found out there would be no Eddie or Susanna or even Oy. Then I found out the movie was only 90 minutes long. Then I found out that 82% of critics gave it a bad review. If I hadn't heard any of these things by Saturday when I saw the movie, I would have absolutely hated it. Because my expectations had been dropped to zero, I did enjoy it, but only as a very simple action good vs bad movie. So when I say I *like it..it's with a HUGE asterisk, because to me this is one of the greatest sagas ever written. This is a story that deserves to be told over multiple movies. This is what I just don't understand...in this day and age where Hollywood pumps out 7 harry potter movies or a bazillion garbage transformer or fast and furious movies and laugh all the way to the bank, why are they not taking an amazing story like this, taking their time, making their money over years rather than just a quick hit like this? Again, the movie is ok for a typical action movie but The Dark Tower (and it's fans) deserves so much more.
I always hoped for the series to be a movie, yet two things stopped me from this movie at this time. First, the story is a sequel to the series and, second my local movie guy (Dean Richards, WGN 9 Chicago) gave it a D rating. He rarely gives that rating. On a different note, I am disappointed the TV adaptation of Mr. Mercedes would require me to switch providers or pay more money. Like Star Trek: Discovery on CBS All Access (for more money).
As I said elsewhere, I waited 20 years for a Dark Tower movie, and after seeing The Dark Tower, I'm still waiting.This was a fun summer action movie. But it wasn't a Dark Tower movie. I get that it's a "sequel" and didn't go in expecting a lot of continuity with the books, but I did expect at least some semblance of similarity with character motivation and at least some attempt at world-building. A longer, slightly slower-paced movie that actually cared about the world and its characters would have been much better than what we got: a sliced-and-diced flick with just enough King callouts to make the fans happy.
Ted wrote: "Mary Johnson wrote: "As a die hard fan, I am reluctant to see the movie. Only because of past experiences. I've found that no Stephen King movie compared favorably to any Stephen King book. I enjoy..."Ted wrote: "Mary Johnson wrote: "As a die hard fan, I am reluctant to see the movie. Only because of past experiences. I've found that no Stephen King movie compared favorably to any Stephen King book. I enjoy..."
Sorry Ted, you are correct. I should change my wording. Your examples are definitely exceptiions to my comment. Slapping my hands!
I enjoyed the books. Not the movie, but I'm not a Matthew McMonaughey fan in the first place. I don't think it's possible to make a Stephen King Movie for a series of books in the first place. I really enjoy the ones that come on the tv for nights at a time. I feel they can actually give you a better sense of the characters you've loved and hated in the books. :D
I am a major King fan however, historically speaking, his best adaptions to film, are the stories that hStephen had very little to do with (control) during the change to the screen vs the novel. In my opinion, the more Stephen gets involved in the film making process, the worse the film adaption is. I think in his case, he is better off allowing the film types to do their job without much interference (the original Shining as an example) besides, cramming 8 books into a 90 minute or so film destined it to the reviews it got.
I have to agree with the critical consensus of this film. It was bad. No, it was worse than bad--it was boring. Even most of the so-called "fresh" reviews struggled to praise the film more than calling it "mediocre." I'd take Ed Wood level film making incompetence over a by-the-numbers Hollywood action film any day.It was bad enough that Roland's myopic quest for the Tower was reduced to a Young Adult interest story in which a misunderstood youth turns out to be savior of the universe. It's a common Hollywood trope that hopes to sell tickets to the PG-13 film-going demographic. However, it isn't even a good example of this type of film. The kid saves the world story has been done much better elsewhere.
I understand this was meant to be Roland's next round on the wheel of Ka. Given that, the story could have changed in myriad ways and still been compelling. I never would have guessed that Roland's next trip would be so dull and look like a second-rate Superhero movie. If the book series were anything like its movie version, there'd be only one book (because I can't imagine fiction readers demanding more of this) and it would have been forgotten years ago. There never would have been a movie.
Evgheni wrote: "I agree with Charli, except, you have to expect a bad movie..."This is such a sad, close-minded way of looking at things. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion, as we all are, but why in the world would you go into something EXPECTING it to be bad? Of course you can expect it to be different from the books since they almost always are, but to have such negative expectations is just, well, sad.
Sarah wrote: "Evgheni wrote: "I agree with Charli, except, you have to expect a bad movie..."This is such a sad, close-minded way of looking at things. Yes, you're entitled to your opinion, as we all are, but ..."
Expecting the movie to be bad was the only way for hardcore fans of the books to actually attempt to enjoy it! I enjoyed the movie to a point (see my previous post) but if I didn't know as much negative stuff as I did going in, my expectations would have been very high and i would have totally hated it.
Erika wrote: "Wei Lien wrote: "It looks like only 18% of the critics agree with you, though. :("Well, unless the other 82% are die-hard fans of the books, I'm not really interested in their opinions."
A good movie is a good movie, independently of the book . If it can't stand on its own and relies on the book, it is bound for failure. You have to assume that the typical moviegoer (like the typical critical) didn't read the books and still deliver a good piece of cinema. Additionally, you have to assume that die-hard fans of books we'll be seeing it as well and satisfy them, in the process. That's why adapting popular, good books is extremely hard and a good portion fails.
I quite agree with you. I have been defending this movie against so much hate and negativity. This movie was really like a new version of The Gunslinger. The story is focused on Roland, Walter, and Jake. I like Jake's new story, I loved seeing the beam breakers (although I always imagined the attack being on the beams, not the Tower itself), and I loved all the Easter eggs. For me, the movie did a great job of introducing us to this world, its mythos, and the characters while also leaving me wanting more....much like The Gunslinger novel did. There is so much more story to tell, but on its own, it still has a beginning, middle, and end. If this is it...if the tv show and/or the rest of the movies don't happen...I feel like this movie stands well enough on its own....much like The Gunslinger novel.
Erin wrote: "I quite agree with you. I have been defending this movie against so much hate and negativity. This movie was really like a new version of The Gunslinger. The story is focused on Roland, Walter, and..."Yay!! It's so nice to see something POSITIVE regarding this movie from another fan. I couldn't agree with you more. I am NOT an expert on the series by any means but I definitely know what I like. My husband and I loved the movie, especially the Easter Eggs! We went into it knowing that it was going to be more of a continuation than a remake.
I liked the story line, the effects, and thought that both Idris Alba and Tom Taylor were perfect choices. And Matthew McConaughey as the Man In Black? Whew. Perfectly sinister.
I look forward to there being either another movie or a TV series in the future but if there isn't, as you said, this movie does stand well enough on its own.
Mary Johnson wrote: "As a die hard fan, I am reluctant to see the movie. Only because of past experiences. I've found that no Stephen King movie compared favorably to any Stephen King book. I enjoy his books so much th..."Sometimes something is better left in our imaginations. I still didn't see it, am unsure. But I loved the series. Jake was very important, he was the first to understand the planes of existence and the fate of the Rose in the pocket park The movie is still playing in my area.
What can you expect when Hollywood tries to cram 7 books into a 2 hour movie? This. So, the Ka Tet is halved, it's got a gee whiz coming of age boy / surrogate father relationship. Matthew McConnahaughy was better than I thought, even good, but I wished wished for Christopher Walken as Walter O'Dim. When the movie opened I saw produced by Tet Corporation, with the Turtle logo, and I got chills. Kind of petered out from there. OK movie, captured a little bit of the flavor of the books, changed the story a lot, (a lot), but the bow is tied and the present is opened, so that's that. SK doesn't have to sweat over Book 7 of the Dark Tower expectation like he did, because the movie is done. Could I have done better? Not in one movie. No Sheemie either. Well, Bombadil didn't make PJ's LOTR, so painful cuts had to be made.
I started reading the DT series in the 80's and eagerly anticipated each sequel, (even the one that took a decade). I was terribly afraid of watching the movie, since that usually does not turn out well. However, my husband talked me into going yesterday and it was actually really good. I think they did the right thing, making the movie a sort of sequel instead of trying to use one of the books. The spirit of the movie was amazing, it was indeed like being transported to Mid-World. I personally give it three our of five stars. It didn't make me want to get up and leave the theater like other book adaptations I have tried to watch, *cough cough* Percy Jackson. It wasn't amazing, but I'd watch it again just to see him speed load his revolvers one more time.
Ted wrote: "I'm sorry but I must disagree. Apart from a few tidbits thrown in(they felt like they were thrown in so we true fans would nod our heads and feel like we were 'in' on it) the movie was for people w..."I agree. I was sorely disappointed. Maybe I just expected too much.
Jeremy wrote: "When I first heard they were making a Dark Tower movie I was overwhelmed with excitement. My favorite book series ever was finally coming to the big screen. Then I found out it was just going to be..."YES!! This was also a huge problem I had when hearing they would make it into a stand alone movie. They could have made a TON of money had they made it into at least 3movies, maybe more. I feel like they threw away so many possibilities.
I mean come on, idris elba played roland, they had a sick cast and a ginormous budget going for them, how did they still screw it up?






