We Are the Resistance
I will soon be posting many, many photos from marches around the world... but for now, just wanted to share the new lock screen on my phone. This picture was taken today in Atlanta, where there were so so so SO many people marching for social justice and women's rights.
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Jan 23, 2017 08:00AM
March for rights you already have all you want; It's not going to result in anything except rationally-minded people looking at you like you live in a fantasy world with imagined misogynists all over the place. Please put up more posters of the psycho who died recently, the privileged actress who did drugs her whole life and claimed to have raised her daughter without gender, which is scientifically impossible and ethically insane! If I have a daughter one day I WILL raise her to be a WOMAN, not attempt to influence her into thinking she can be anything other than what the universe made her to be. And I certainly won't be telling her that men have it better, that they exist simply to bring her down, or that she is better than anyone! I also won't be aborting her, because I can use empathy to realize what it'd be like to have another fallible human being make a decision for her that she shouldn't exist. She will be taught reason and rationality, and she will form her own opinions and decisions on how to keep safe from REAL threats on this planet. I love your books, and although many criticize you for your anti-marriage messages I have been ignoring them, because your characters are so wonderful and complex, but regretfully I am removing you from my favorite author list. I didn't expect nor want to get this impression of you today, so I won't be buying any more of your books.
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Yikes ^ Kristin, I personally will buy more of your books as well as the copies Chelsie is missing out on so can you please make more ASAP? I need more amazing fictional feminist heroines in my reading world.
It's sad that there are people out there who think that women fighting for equality are trying to be "better" than anyone else. It shows exactly why the those marches are important- and why fiction like yours is important. I'll be joining Steph at the checkout counter next time a new book by you is in stores.
Honestly though, today's feminist movement is fragmented and you get a bunch of people who call themselves feminists who really aren't and have some contemptible views (eg. the media's "feminazi"). Most of us though love your books and your [female] characters' free wills, even if that means no marriage for them :)
I really don't understand the feminist movement and I don't really see anything wrong with any of Cashore's female characters. In fact I love the fact that they are strong independent women that accept that they are female with certain frailties, as do the males in her books. I don't think men and women are equal, especially in a biological sense of bearing and nursing children. I don't see women as the weaker sex, it's just a matter of personalities. A female can be equally aggressive, smart, strong,wise, etc.; they just convey it differently from males. A male can be nurturing, caring, sensitive, etc also. It's a matter of how their environment/society values those characteristics. I'm turned off by people who are aggressive and belligerent whether male or female, just as I smile when a person is sweet and caring, regardless of gender. I won't even start on my views on marriage!
@Angela, It's sad that there are people out there who actually think they are making history where history has already been made! Progress has already been made YEARS AGO, and the Women's March is not only pointless but funded and organized by some very bad people. I think it's time to stand up for women who are actually suffering due to REAL inequality, not imagined patriarchy in a society that, surprise!, lets you raise a child without a man (gasp!) (a clear sign of equal rights in Western societies by the way). Stand up for women who are being savagely beaten, raped simply for existing, subjected to genital mutilation where men are not (yet here in the West men still are--also insane!), killed for disobeying, and indoctrinated with hate-mongering ideologies (hijab and niqab are about as empowering as the chastity belt!). They are in much greater need of help (whether they think so or not--see indoctrination) than privileged first-world snowflakes who think their identity is everything! You are not cool for being feminist in the 21st century; you're just blind and angry, which equates to ignorance.
The feminist movement in America is certainly not perfect, as it's made up of many different kinds of people with varying viewpoints, and suffers from major issues such as a lack of intersectionality. Like any social movement, it's a constant work in progress with a million moving parts, not all of them even moving in time with one another. And @Chelsie, I agree that we've made a lot more progress towards equality for women in the USA than other countries have. And that's wonderful! Women worked hard to get us where we are today. But just because we are subjected to less mistreatment nowadays doesn't mean things are perfect. As you said, we can raise a child without a man- but parents of both genders suffer from a lack of paid parental leave that many other countries provide (a system hinged on the ingrained assumption that the woman would leave her job to care for the baby and be supported by her husband, a system that is detrimental to both genders and also doesn't take into account single-parent households). Women suffer from a lack of gender-specific healthcare and family planning services, and birth-related mortality in the US is shockingly high in comparison to other countries. Domestic abuse and rape are still very prevalent, under-reported, and women are placed with undue responsibility while men who abuse women are too often excused. Trump's "grab 'em by the p*ssy" recording is just one a thousand examples of sexual abuse being trivialized. That's not okay. We can do better.
You're right that there are many places in the world where it's worse. We should be grateful for and proud of our progress so far. But we're not done, and we are not obligated to sit down and be quiet just because someone else has it worse. It's the same logic people use with depressed individuals: "You can't be sad, because someone else in the world has it worse than you. Be happy!" That doesn't work. Settling for less because it could be worse doesn't fix the problems that still exist.
It's great that you are content with your life and and the rights you have. You're not obligated to agree with the modern feminist movement or support it, just as Kristin is not obligated to agree with you, or to change or hide her personal opinions to sell books. I'm genuinely happy for you that you feel comfortable and safe being a woman, and hope that someday everyone in our country can feel the same way.
I feel it might be necessary to point out that the women's march occurred WORLDWIDE to protest unethical treatment of women EVERYWHERE. There were marches on all 7 continents because this IS a problem that affects everyone. And if you think that we don't need more equality and feminism in the US, then I guess you're okay with your daughter being paid less than her male peers for the same work. I don't know your daughter, but I would hope for more for both her and every young woman around the world.
The wage gap is a WIDELY debunked myth. Please look it up before attempting to make arguments. Facts matter.Also, most of these issues protested by the Women's March are not feminist issues; they are egalitarian issues. And it's not just the name "feminism" that gives away the skew towards the supremacy of women. It's inherent in the movement no matter what any one individual tries to argue. Separating yourself from men, even with the claim that women lack a certain kind of medical treatment, is sexist against men, because women aren't the only demographic lacking a certain medical treatment. Even mentioning domestic abuse and rape being under-reported... This isn't solely a feminist issue, because men experience domestic abuse too, and due to shame and other reasons there are vastly vastly under-reported crimes against men as well. It's not even something you can measure or probably ever even correct as an issue. It's hypocritical to ask me not to focus on women in the East, assuming I'm attempting to downgrade the issues of women in the West (I'm not--I'm just calling them human issues rather than women issues), when your focusing on supposed women-only issues is doing the same thing against asserted men-only issues.
Feminism is for women's RIGHTS. Women have voting rights. Women have property rights. Women can get education, even higher education and with government assistance. Women can bear children and raise them alone; they even get government money in order to do so and get vastly favorable treatment in divorce courts, which effectively helps capitulate the destruction of the family dynamic of our species on societal levels, but I won't go into that LOL. These are the RIGHTS women fought for and accomplished years ago. There are no RIGHTS currently in the Western world that women are without. There is no systematic patriarchy against women in the West. Even by definition the word "rights" is ambiguous and not proven to exist. They are figurative ideas provided by government, meaning anything that you argue to be your "right" is an expectation for government to provide that, and the majority of people out there do NOT want more government control over their lives. America is about more freedom, not more control.
This is why I argue for helping women in other parts of the world, not marching on Washington D.C. and other cities because the President made an offhand, sexist comment to another man 12 years ago (and admits he regrets it and that it wasn't his real character!), not wearing vaginas on your head, not wearing hijabs, a symbol of ACTUAL PATRIARCHY, made out of American flags (a symbol of FREEDOM), not destroying private property, not arguing the popular vote even matters, etc.
And since we're pointing out things we "feel" are necessary to mention, I feel it's necessary to point out that only 20% of the US population and 7% of UK population consider themselves Feminists, and it's not because they aren't for egalitarianism. It's because they see modern-day feminism for the political ploy that it really is. So no, this Women's March is NOT for ALL women. MOST people disagree with it. The March isn't even about women. It's anti-Trump and should've been called such, and even then it's still idiotic, because Trump has never proposed to take away anyone's rights.
Research???? Like this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/ashleysta...This:
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/the-gende...
This:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/a...
This:
https://www.dol.gov/wb/media/gender_w...
Or this?
http://www.nationalpartnership.org/re...
And finally this?
http://www.epi.org/publication/what-i...
That kinda research?
There are many sources that may exaggerate the wage gap, but it is real and still going on.
Since you may need a reminder on some of this, feminism is the name used by those in favor of gender equality. Those who believe women should be given more rights do not necessarily also believe that men should lose rights or that men do not also need more equality. The two are not mutually exclusive.
Also, this march included participation around the world to advocate for the rights of women AROUND THE WORLD. That includes those in the Middle East subjected to different abuses than those in the US.
As far as some of the misinformation going on surrounding the term 'feminism', it may be helpful for you to look up some of the speeches Emma Watson has done surrounding feminism. She explains it much better than I could in a short post.
And finally, to use your words that "Trump has never proposed to take away anyone's rights", I would VERY STRONGLY URGE that you look into the most recent executive order signed this weekend that takes away the rights of thousands of LEGAL immigrants to the states and is fraught with corruption and is unconstitutional by its very nature. If you need more explanation on those details, look into the lawsuit against it being led by the ACLU.
Some people are blinded by their own fortunate circumstances and complete lack of empathy. I always buy your books, and will now buy one to gift as well.
Oh, and Love your lock screen!
"Women are paid less than men for equal work" is misleading and an outright false statement. Period. I stand firm on the fact the wage gap is a myth that has been widely debunked. The information is all over the internet. It's not even debatable anymore, although people and agencies still relentlessly try to manipulate the facts or lack of facts to present it as fact.Like I said about the definition of "feminism", it's inherent in the movement to be about women, not men, not both women and men, regardless of the textbook definition at this point. No movement is purely based on its textbook definition, rather the people who make up the movement and their beliefs. This is why most people in the US and UK are not feminists.
Using an inexperienced, privileged celebrity who has spent her entire life being pandered to, constantly told she is perfect by everyone who surrounds her, who was a subject in the Panama Papers and a proven tax evader, who is without credentials in such subjects that might matter in a debate of this topic, like sociology, rather "women's studies" (which is a joke of a subject and usually results in a waste of money for a major), who lacks critical thinking skills and bases arguments in her speeches on feelings and emotions in order to appeal to weak mentalities, is really a bad choice for the representative of a social issue in a rational, logical, fact-based argument. You might want to check her actual privilege and capacity for empathy in her social status before using her as "evidence" on a social issue.
The majority of people don't care what your definition of feminism is. The movement has CLEARLY evolved into something it previously wasn't. They see all the ridiculous, misinformed, vacuous, obnoxious, man-hating, anti-American, self-serving, virtue-signalling idiots at these marches, and they disagree with them entirely.
Trump's executive order is only an extension of Obama's original proposition. It is not unconstitutional. It is not anti-Muslim. If there is any label to put on it, it's anti-terrorism. It's not taking away anyone's rights. My husband is a legal permanent resident, but he does NOT have all the rights I have as an American citizen, and for whatever reason his status could be revoked. He may be a subject of US laws, but he is not a US citizen, and therefore not protected by the US Constitution in all the same ways a citizen is.
For the cost of settling 10k refugees in the US, you could settle 121k in the Middle East. Demanding open borders for everyone is just not a good argument to hold if you actually care about refugees. It becomes obvious that the people who hold this argument want focus yet again on themselves and how great they are, virtue-signalling everyone around them.
Per 8 USC §1182:
“Whenever the President finds that the entry of any aliens or of any class of aliens into the United States would be detrimental to the interests of the United States, he may by proclamation, and for such period as he shall deem necessary, suspend the entry of all aliens or any class of aliens as immigrants or nonimmigrants, or impose on the entry of aliens any restrictions he may deem to be appropriate.”
As I have provided a multitude of sources showing the history and credibility of the wage gap, I would love to see any CREDIBLE information you have disproving that. NOTE: Just because it's on the internet, doesn't mean it's true. Perhaps you should reread the Forbes article I posted, as that comes from a typically conservative news source, if you can't trust the US government resources I also posted. I mean, it's not coming from the all-knowing internet, but I tried.
Just because you feel that feminism means something derogatory for men or think that other people feel this, does not mean that's what feminism truly is. Your opinions or beliefs on something, no matter how strongly you may believe them, do not constitute facts.
See 6:30 - 7:40 of this clip for further explanation.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNdkr...
Not sure why you hate Hermione, but okay, valid point. Celebrity endorsements of things are often flimsy.
Instead, please listen to senior UN adviser Elizabeth Nyamayaro explain quite eloquently how feminism is truly about equality and raising up men alongside women:
https://www.ted.com/talks/elizabeth_n....
However, if you'd like to hear from a man how feminism benefits their gender as well, please look up any of the statements former UN Secretary General Ban-Ki Moon has made about the problem and his outspoken support of feminism.
RE: the recent executive order.
If the current President's executive order is with the intent of making our country safer, it is greatly flawed. His ban only affects 7 specific countries which have minimal to no records of endangering the US.
See the Wall Street Journal evidence:
https://si.wsj.net/public/resources/i...
and here:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/countrie...
However, based on the graph linked above (the jpg link), other countries have much more of a documented history of perpetrating attacks against the US. So why weren't they included in the list of countries whose citizens are banned from coming to the states?
According to the NY Times, perhaps because Trump's companies do business with countries that have a history of extremist citizens and groups committing terrorist attacks against the US.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/29/op...
According to CNN,
"The list does not include Muslim-majority countries where the Trump Organization does business, including Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Turkey and the United Arab Emirates. In financial disclosure forms during the presidential campaign, he listed two companies with dealings in Egypt and eight with business in Saudi Arabia. And in the UAE, the Trump Organization is partnering with a local billionaire to develop two golf courses in Dubai."
http://www.cnn.com/2017/01/29/politic...
However, if you're still concerned about the safety of the country from supposed foreign threats, please take a look at the rigorous vetting system already in place and approved by national security.
This is the rigorous process in a nutshell/easy to understand form.
- As explained by the NY Times,: https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...
- As explained by the White House:
https://obamawhitehouse.archives.gov/...
If you'd like a more in-depth explanation of the process, please consult:
- Homeland Security expert David Inserra (who has a phone number and can be reached for comment should you have further questions)
http://www.heritage.org/research/comm...
- CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/60-minute...
- Time magazine
http://time.com/4116619/syrian-refuge...
And because the Apocalypse is nigh, let's even consult one of the Bushes (Jeb), who has a more firm grasp on the process than the current administration or a majority of the American citizenry.
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-met...
As I have provided you with numerous sources that provide factual information disputing your claims that:
-feminism is full of man haters
- the women's march was full of whiny Americans who should be focused on how much worse women have it in other parts of the world
- the gender wage gap is a lie
- Trump's executive order is about protecting the country and is not biased or unconstitutional
- "Trump has never proposed to take away anyone's rights"
please do the basic courtesy of also providing adequate evidence from reliable, minimally biased sources to support your fallacious claims for future rounds of this inevitable post war.
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