To booze or not to booze

I'm not sure how old this debate is in the seduction community, the whole drinking while sarging thing. I certainly remember it being discussed in 2006, and inThe Game, Strauss says he doesn't drink when he's Gaming.Jlaix AKA Jeffy was always pissed off his tits according to his old post archive, and claimed to be doing real good despite that (or maybe because of it). I think Gunwitch was a drinker too. Roosh was partial to a tipple as well if I remember correctly from his blog.Jeffy and Gunwitch were always at pains to stress their masculinity, so boozing was part and parcel of the image. Jeffy had that whole "wild man of PU" persona he's cultivated since day one in the community so being teetotal wouldn't exactly fit in with that. Roosh's take on it, was just he was a guy who liked a drink when he was out, and it helped the night along.Who could forget Jeffy's Chessclub '10'?Proof he was definitely doing himself some drinkin'!That's the same camp I'm in. I've tried Gaming with drink and without, and I enjoy it more with a bit of booze in me.When daygaming I'm obviously stone cold sober, but it's a totally different environment. I don't, and never have, drank booze during the day (all inclusive holidays excepted naturally), so it wouldn't seem 'right' to be drinking during daygame. How would I do that anyway? Nip into a bar between sets or wander round drinking out of a bottle wrapped in brown paper?! It just doesn't fit socially in the same way a drink does during nightgame. And like I said, out with a lunchtime glass of wine or some such, I'd feel like I'd a problem if I was drinking!Sort of the same thing with nightgame, but midweek. When I'd go out with a workday next morning, I always had an eye to that, so was careful never to overdo it, and home by midnight. I'd either have a couple pints tops,  or nothing at all. Again, that felt okay, as the same venues felt different, less busy, different faces, and I wouldn't say I missed it.I wouldn't even say I was "missing" it because the truth is, I just didn't want it. Like I smoke socially, but I don't smoke at any other time, and don't even think about it. Same with booze. When I do drink, it's to enjoy it, not because I absolutely need it.There was a stage I didn't drink at all of a weekend, that was back when I first got into the Game in 2006. That was the prescribed advice so I followed it. I don't remember those nights much different from the later ones to be honest. Except when I came home after a bad night I'd be too pissed-off to sleep. I was pissed-off again to read years later that apparently Mystery and co., the guys I was emulating with the no-drink rule, may not have been boozing, but they were coked off their nut instead.RSD's Tyler always professed to being a non-drinker, and I think that's the ethos pushed by Julien now too. Jeffy seems to come and go on it, and his public pronouncements don't entirely seem to tally-up with his behaviour on some bootcamp reports I've read. But anyway, I think RSD is largely a school of sobriety, or at least it's the maintained line, and its more ardent followers have adopted the ideology. So as with much of the friction within the community, I think it's RSD that's in large part responsible for the polarised opinions on booze too.I don't advocate getting smashed every weekend, but having tried Game both ways, I enjoy a drink of a night out. When I didn't, I wasn't doing what I wanted, I was doing what someone else told me to, thinking that was how to do it the "PUA" way.Lot of guys too caught up in all that. Sure it's healthy etc., there's nothing wrong in it, but then you get guys doing shit like staying up all night and trying to function on micro-naps of 20mins, or going on weird diets and eating the exact same thing morning, noon and night. Sitting "meditating" such great thoughts as while there can be sexual gratification, it should only be of the type which can be posted on the Lair to kudos, so thus masturbation (unless it's the mental sort on the same lair), is forbidden too.It wouldn't be so bad except like any convert, these people want to change everyone else's lives too - for the five minutes they're into it. Or pretending to be into it. There was even some Amazonian jungle-juice type craze that I remember from years back, with the hardcore guys looking to take trips to South American shamen to get seriously fucked-up on this hallucinogenic shit. Apparently, it'd reset your reality and you'd be forever changed. Yeah, I've heard there's some hard drugs that'll permanently turn you around in your skin if you get a bad trip, but so long as you aren't chugging the odd bottle of Bud or two, you can feel superior about yourself.'Ave a bang on that, broThat's the other grating issue: that these PUA Buddhists are very much in it for the pose and the points factor over other guys, more than for any real attempt at self-improvement. Bragging in other words. Because when it comes to anything that actually requires long, sustained effort, like the gym, or even just finishing reading a book, most of these said same masters of self, are woefully lacking.It's these same Buddhists too that do all the same shitJonas Dickdid as well. Like, yeah great, pontificate some more on how grounding you find meditation, and then next forum post lech on how you "screwed" some "slut."When you're not drinking, you do then appreciate how many people are, especially the women. It has to be said, when you're chatting to someone with a few vodka Redbulls inside them, it helps to be on the same wavelength. Like if you've ever been home of a Friday night and a chick on the rotation messages to ask if you're out, and if not, can she come round?She thinks she's fine... well, maybe not fit to fly, but certainly not embarrassing, but you can tell from the moment she arrives that she's been on the sauce. Especially if all you've been on all night is your couch.That's pretty much where every chick who's been drinking is at, come that time of night. So, if you're stone cold sober, spitting your best Oscar Wildean witticisms, I'm afraid to say that they're going to be somewhat wasted. Just like the chick.At the end of the day though, I take a drink of weekend night out because I bloody well enjoy it! I like getting my legal buzz on. I enjoy the social side of a drink with people too. If I think I'm starting to enjoy it too much, I order a water. I usually do that anyway, alternate an alcoholic beverage with a water, so as not to get sloshed.Another element to the booze thing isVIP/bottle service. You have to order alcohol if you're going to reserve a table, and you have to meet your minimum spend. You're not going to get those tables if you don't. Unless you're happy to just have the table and pay for it, and order jugs of tap water instead.For me, a few drinks is all part of the little treats that make life worth living. I still go to the gym, eat healthy, but of a Saturday night, all bets are off: I do what I like, and community dogma be damned. I'm not training for the Olympics the rest of the week anyway, so I like to think I have a good balance and perspective.And whether anyone agrees or not..."Cheers!"